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Revolvers Kill! (May Be Even More Lethal Than Semi-Automatic Handguns by David Yamane

I have been meaning to write for some time about an article we read last spring in my Sociology of Guns Seminar“Impact of handgun types on gun assault outcomes: A comparison of gun assaults involving semiautomatic pistols and revolvers,” published in Injury Prevention in 2003 by D.C. Reedy and C.S. Koper. (Koper is possibly best-known for his work assessing the effect of the federal assault weapons ban for the National Institute of Justice.)

Like many observers of gun culture, I mostly see revolvers recommended (a) for ladies, (b) as a backup to your primary, semiautomatic carry pistol, or (c) by old school wheel gun masters like Grant Cunningham.

Cunningham excepted, we often seem to underestimate the lethal potential of revolvers. And WE most definitely includes the authors of this article. In fact, they are so hell-bent on establishing the danger of semi-automatic pistols over revolvers that they cannot even read their own findings correctly. (Recalling my last post on the importance of being truth advocates over political advocates.)

Using police records on fatal and non-fatal handgun assaults in Jersey City, NJ from 1992 through 1996, the authors results are summarized in the two figures below. (I wanted to present them side-by side for ease of comparison, but didn’t have time to do that, sorry.)

Figure 1 shows the results for SEMIAUTOMATIC HANDGUNS. Following the tree from threat to death, bottom to top, we see that in 57.58% of attacks, the victim was injured. This is virtually the same proportion as those attacked with revolvers: 56.34% (Figure 2 below).

Of those injured, 15.79% of those assaulted with semiautomatic pistols died. But the fatality rate for revolvers is actually almost 60% HIGHER: 25% (Figure 2 below).

Revolvers kill!!!!

Respect to the authors for reporting what the data actually show. That is social scientifically responsible. But because the findings depart from their expectations, they go through all sorts of efforts to try to explain how semi-automatic pistols really are more dangerous.

Consider their conclusions:They conclude: “the number of gunshot victims would have been approximately 9% lower had pistols not been used in any of the attacks.”

What? The? Freak? The number of victims would have been 9% lower, but the fatality rate of revolvers is 58% higher (25% vs. 15.79%). So that is an acceptable trade-off?

Even their basis for explaining how much worse semi-autos are than revolvers is suspect. As seen in Table 2 below, the average number of gunshot victims per incident was 1.15 for semi-autos and 1.0 for revolvers. The difference is statistically significant, but is it substantively significant?

Although the difference is not statistically significant, the average number of wounds per gunshot victim (1.5) is actually higher than that of semi-autos (1.44).

Of course we all know that a benefit of semi-autos over revolvers is that you can just rain bullets down on people with semi-autos. Table 1 below shows the estimated shots fired per incident, by pistols and revolvers. The estimated average range per incident (minimum to maximum) for semi-autos is 3.23 to 3.68, and for revolvers is 2.3 to 2.58.

So, basically one more shot per incident on average for semi-auto pistols than revolvers. Not exactly a hail of gunfire in either case, and certainly not a major difference between the two gun action types.

I don’t know whether these results are because revolvers are more reliable or accurate, or because those who use revolvers are more determined or careful. But I certainly interpreted the findings much differently than the authors.

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RETRIEVING THE RIFLE: AN OVERLOOKED SKILL

If you haven’t taken my Perimeter Defense Rifle class (or read Protecting Your Homestead), you may not know that one of the things I teach is the idea that the rifle is the gun we are most unlikely to have on our person when we need it. It’s the firearm that needs to be retrieved in order to use, and that affects how we train and practice.

The popularity contest

It’s quite popular in rifle classes these days to shoot from a slung-in-front configuration — with the rifle hanging in the perfect position, hands pre-placed and, very often, with the buttstock already on the shoulder. This makes it fast and easy to simply swing the gun up and into a shooting position, decreasing the time it takes to fire a shot (and giving the guy holding the shot timer some reason for existing.)

Despite the ubiquity of the practice, I consider it so unrealistic as to be laughable, because it assumes you already have the gun with you, and slung just so, when the problem starts!

In reality, when an incident occurs for which you need the rifle it’s very unlikely that you’ll be “on patrol”, with the gun conveniently slung where you can simply raise it and shoot. You’re not going to be on a SWAT entry team with the butt of your rifle already planted on your shoulder.

The more likely scenario is that you’ll suddenly become aware that you need a rifle. You’ll run to the rifle’s storage place, grab it (and a magazine, if necessary), get the gun into a condition to be used, make your way to the point where you can/will employ it, then (if necessary) shoulder it and make the shot.

That’s a very different set of skills.

Sling, slung, slang?

Because of the need to respond to a developing situation, and the urgency it causes in one’s reactions, I don’t believe most people will actually take the time to get “slung up” or don one of those chest harness/magazine carrier contraptions.

I’ve used a rifle as a defensive tool, and in none of my incidents did I even think about using the sling. (I’ll admit to not owning any of those chest harnesses, but I’m quite sure I would also have left it behind in my rush to get the rifle into play.)

This is quite consistent with what people I’ve interviewed have told me about their defensive experience with the rifle. As one said: “When someone is shooting at you, everything that’s non-essential goes right out the window.”

The sling, in my opinion, is usually non-essential to the job of putting rounds downrange. Someone once said that the sling is to the rifle what the holster is to the pistol, but I think even that analogy implies more importance than it should. Practicing from a slung position, I believe, is a waste of valuable resources because plausible incidents don’t often happen that way.

I think it’s far more valuable to practice a realistic skill set, those things that you’ll actually need to do when it’s time for the rifle.

What might that look like?

Grab and go

Since the rifle is the arm that you need to go and get, it seems to me that learning how to retrieve and move with it is important. Like drawing the handgun, retrieving the rifle is a skill that must be practiced. Oddly, though, it’s one that gets little to no attention in most rifle curriculums. See the disconnect?

Being able to get to the storage area quickly, access the rifle, easily get it out of the storage device, and move rapidly and safely to the point where it will be employed are all tasks that need to be practiced if they’re to be done efficiently. This is the time for “grab the gun and go”, not “get geared up to be all tactical and stuff”.

Think about your rifle and how you train with it. When was the last time you factored any realistic  skills into your practice routine? I submit that you’ll gain far more from paying attention to those  than adjusting a sling to reduce your shot time by a tenth of a second.

-=[ Grant ]=-

P.S.: My Threat-Centered Revolver course in Phoenix, AZ this November is filling up! This will be my last open-enrollment course of 2019, so if you’ve been putting off registration don’t wait any longer. You can learn more (and sign up) at this link.

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