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The .257 Roberts: The Quarter-Bore That Deserved Better

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Modern Status and Availability

The .257 Roberts hasn’t completely disappeared, but it’s not thriving either. As of this writing, factory ammunition is available from a handful of manufacturers — Hornady, Nosler, Remington, and Winchester have produced runs in recent years, though it’s not always sitting on the shelf at your local sporting goods store. You may need to order online or, better yet, load your own. Brass is available from Nosler, Hornady, and occasionally from Remington and Winchester.

Rifle availability is more limited. Ruger has chambered the No. 1 and the M77 Hawkeye in .257 Roberts on occasion. The cartridge shows up in semi-custom offerings from companies like Cooper and Kimber from time to time. But you won’t find rows of .257 Roberts rifles at a big box store. Most shooters who fall in love with the Bob end up having a rifle built on a custom or semi-custom action, which honestly suits the cartridge’s personality just fine.

Ruger Hawkeye Standard bolt-action rifle with walnut stock
Image courtesy of Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc.
Ruger No. 1 single-shot falling block rifle with walnut stock
Image courtesy of Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc.

Who Is the .257 Roberts For?

In my opinion, the .257 Roberts is ideal for a few specific types of shooters. First, anyone who is recoil-sensitive but wants genuine medium-game capability — the Roberts delivers deer-killing performance at recoil levels closer to a .243 than a .270. Second, handloaders who appreciate case efficiency and barrel life. Third, anyone who hunts in open country where 250-300 yard shots are common but 500-yard bombing runs are not the goal. And honestly? Anyone who just appreciates an elegant cartridge that does its job without fanfare. You may also be interested in our coverage of The .32 Rimfire Cartridge: History and Variations.

The .257 Roberts may never reclaim a top-ten spot on the best-seller charts. The market has moved on, and there’s no going back. But cartridges don’t become obsolete just because newer ones exist. The Bob still does exactly what Ned Roberts intended it to do — put .25-caliber bullets on target with precision, efficiency, and minimal fuss. If that sounds appealing, grab a reloading manual and start down the quarter-bore rabbit hole. You won’t regret it.

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Politicians Are Scum By Will Dabbs, MD

The “Honorable” Andrew J. May
This is Congressman Andrew J. May. He was a card-carrying loser.

This is hands-down the most eventful election cycle of my lifetime. As I sit typing these words, one candidate was shot, and the other left the race because of senility … all in the course of eight days. I like to think of myself as a fairly creative guy, and even I could not make this stuff up.

One might be forgiven for believing the situation hopeless. Regardless of what side of the political fence upon which you might reside, everyone would likely acknowledge that our current crop of politicians comes with a spot of baggage. It’s enough to render a brother demoralized and wistful for the good old days.

Not so fast. While I do long for the purity and patriotism of wartime 1940s America, it seems that electing flaming idiots is a timeless problem. Back in 1943, one particularly ambitious moron killed a whole pile of U.S. submariners.

Everybody hates politicians. Andrew May was the reason.

The Guy

Andrew J. May was born in 1875 in Kentucky. A natural politician, May served as county attorney for Floyd County, Ky. from 1901 through 1909. Using that experience as a springboard, he landed a judgeship and, eventually, a seat in the U.S. Congress.

Congressman May hooked his wagon to Franklin D. Roosevelt. He was an ardent proponent of the New Deal. May was instrumental in passing the Social Security Act as well as the GI Bill of Rights. He was the primary author of the Peacetime Selective Service Act, which laid the foundation for the sweeping draft that was required to feed the massive American war machine during the early part of WWII. Up until this part in our tale, the Honorable Andrew J. May did indeed seem like an effective servant of the people.

I’ve known a handful of federal lawmakers, a couple of whom I saw in action up close. You cannot do that job for long and stay normal. They’re all disconnected from reality. Eventually, you start believing your own press releases. It is a hop, skip and jump from there over to pure, unfettered narcissism. Andrew May leapt in with both feet.

Never Trust a Politician with Anything Important

In 1943, Congressman May was head of the Military Affairs Committee. In this capacity, he toured American military installations across the Pacific Theater. Along the way, he was privy to a great deal of very sensitive information.

With the entire world at war, details regarding weapons’ capabilities were closely guarded secrets. Then, as now, public servants tended to flaunt both their positions and their access. In this case, the results were fairly catastrophic.

By 1943, the fortunes of American submarines in the Pacific were going swimmingly. Loss rates were low, and attacks on Japanese shipping were taking a vicious toll. One of the reasons for this success was that American subs could dive really, really deep. Back then, our boats could operate at least 400 feet below the surface, markedly deeper than their Japanese counterparts.

The Japanese could not imagine that Yankee submarines would be so much more capable than their own. As a result, when Japanese destroyers attacked U.S. submarines, they would set their depth charges to detonate fairly shallow. American skippers knew if they could just get deep enough, they would be relatively immune to Japanese attack. Then, Congressman May got home from his trip and scheduled a press conference.Congressman May undertook a fact-finding tour of military
installations in the Pacific during the height of WWII. He then
came home and blabbed all the classified details to the press

Stupidity Has a Face

 

During the course of his press event wherein he outlined all that he was doing to support the war effort, Congressman May casually mentioned that the reason American subs were doing so well was that they were running underneath Japanese depth charges. The meat of his conference made the wire services and spread across the country. Japanese spies took note and sent this information to their handlers back home. It was a simple thing to reset their depth charges to go off a little deeper. The Japanese began bagging U.S. submarines.

Vice Admiral Charles Lockwood, commander of the US submarine fleet in the Pacific, said, “I hear Congressman May said the Jap depth charges are not set deep enough. He would be pleased to know that the Japs set them deeper now.”

By war’s end, May’s idiocy had directly resulted in the sinking of 10 American submarines and the deaths of some 800 U.S. sailors.American submarines fared well in the Pacific during the early part of WWII. Then Congressman May explained to the Japanese what they needed to do to kill them.

It Gets Even Better

When he wasn’t busy drowning Americans, Congressman May was using his position to make money on the side. May used his influence to obtain war production contracts for his friends Murray and Henry Garsson.

Despite having no experience producing munitions, the Garsson brothers began churning out such stuff as 4.2-inch mortar shells, many of which were found to have had defective fuses. These fuses often resulted in premature detonations that ultimately claimed the lives of a further 38 U.S. soldiers. In exchange for these sweet military contracts, Congressman May accepted a bunch of good old-fashioned bribes.

Once word got out about May’s body count, his constituency threw him out. After losing reelection, May was tried in federal court on charges of bribery and convicted after less than two hours’ worth of deliberation. May served a nine-month prison sentence. The Garssons went to jail as well.

Despite his malfeasance, May remained well-connected. In 1952, President Harry Truman granted him a full pardon. However, voters were apparently smarter than is the case today. Andrew May failed to resurrect his political career and spent the rest of his days working in private practice as a lawyer. He died in 1959 at the age of 83 as the only man in human history personally responsible for the sinking of 10 submarines.

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