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Ayoob: Is the 1911 Wrong for CCW? By Massad Ayoob

There are reasons why the full-size 1911 pistol is often described as “iconic,” and the gun’s long and successful history on battlefields, in the streets and at pistol championships isn’t the only reason. It’s slim for its power level, an important dimension for both comfort and concealment. When properly built, it’s also remarkably accurate, and its trigger system and grip shape adapt well to a broad range of hand sizes.

The 1911 is not seen as often in holsters as polymer-framed, striker-fired pistols. Why is that?
The 1911 is not seen as often in holsters as polymer-framed, striker-fired pistols. Why is that?

But you do not see it as often in holsters as you do striker-fired, polymer-framed pistols. Why is that? Is there something about the pistol that made it good for combat on the battlefield, but poor for civilian EDC?

What’s Wrong?

The 1911 is big. It almost always fires a big round, is made of metal, and was designed as a military pistol more than a century ago. And because of these things, it’s also relatively heavy. Sure, a lightweight pistol can be easier to pack, and carrying a gun cocked-and-locked can scare off some EDC users. Some might say you could carry it with an empty chamber to offset that last concern, but let’s not even go there.

The 1911 is powerful and proven, as well as very slim. It is also large, and can be hard to conceal.
The 1911 is powerful and proven, as well as very slim. It is also large, and can be hard to conceal.

As with any choice in life, we go toward the strong points and do what we can to reinforce or offset the weak points. For concealing a full-size 1911 pistol, that means delving deeper than usual into the arcane art and science of comfortable, discreet gun concealment.

Your correspondent here is an average-size adult male, and one who began carrying full-size 1911 pistols concealed at the age of twelve when working part time in a jewelry store, legal in that time and place. In the decades that followed, I carried them concealed as an off-duty and plainclothes cop and as an armed citizen, won pistol matches with them, and killed large animals with them, all of which left me confident with the platform. And what I learned about carrying them concealed is what follows.

A belt by the same maker as holster helps assure a perfect, secure fit. ARG IWB holster, designed by author, and dress gunbelt here are both produced by Mitch Rosen.
A belt by the same maker as holster helps assure a perfect, secure fit. ARG IWB holster, designed by author, and dress gunbelt here are both produced by Mitch Rosen.

A Holster Wardrobe

Because most of us don’t wear the same clothes every day in all four seasons, a single holster may not always do for 24/7/365 carry, either. I travel frequently, teaching firearms and deadly force, and usually have three or four holsters with me. I’m habituated to strong-side hip carry, and will have one inside the waistband (IWB) and one outside the waistband (OWB) because some, but not all, of my pants are sized for IWB. We buy the pants to fit us, and shouldn’t be surprised when it’s uncomfortable to try to make the same pants encompass us and a holstered service pistol. I’d suggest those two styles for the first-time carrier, with a good OWB to start because by definition, the first-timer hasn’t adapted the wardrobe yet.

A magazine with an extended base can be “just right” for author’s spare carry. Arrows show where flange bottom mag (left) and GI-style mag (right) can “dig” uncomfortably against the body.
A magazine with an extended base can be “just right” for author’s spare carry. Arrows show where flange bottom mag (left) and GI-style mag (right) can “dig” uncomfortably against the body.

I add a couple of orthopedic holsters. Being right-handed, I’ll have either a dedicated left-hand holster or an ambidextrous one in the suitcase in case of an injury to the dominant upper limb. (Been there, experienced that.) Because I also have a past history of lumbar back problems and am old enough to recognize the word “relapse,” I try to also have handy a shoulder holster that takes the weight off lower back and hips if that becomes necessary.

Desirable Features

Unless you have really, really big hands, you’ve noticed that the butt of a full-size 1911 protrudes from the bottom of your fist when in firing grasp. In other words, it’s kinda long. That’s why the butt wants to protrude, or “print,” compromising the first word in “concealed carry.” Pro Tip: unless you’re built large with a good distance between back and belly, concealing a 5” barrel 1911 means you probably need a holster with “FBI tilt.” That is, the muzzle is pointed slightly behind you when the gun is holstered, also known as “forward tilt” (of the whole gun from the vertical plane) or “rearward cant” (which describes the orientation of the muzzle). This is true for both IWB and OWB hip carry.

Ayoob suggests one OWB and one IWB to start your concealment holster wardrobe. Both these and the belt are by Mitch Rosen.
Ayoob suggests one OWB and one IWB to start your concealment holster wardrobe. Both these and the belt are by Mitch Rosen.

IWB maximizes concealment because everything much below the bottom edge of the belt is hidden by the trousers if the torso garment rides up, and also because the belt is constantly holding it tight to hip and torso.

If you like the currently trending AIWB (Appendix Inside WaistBand) carry, be glad you chose the 1911. Since the muzzle is going to be pointed at your private parts and/or femoral artery, you’ll have (A) the engaged manual safety of the 1911’s mandatory cocked-and-locked carry, (B) the signature grip safety of the 1911 and (C) the ability to place your thumb on the face of the hammer to keep it from coming forward if all else fails (and to guarantee that the grip safety is not depressed). For AIWB you might want a slightly different holster cant to better allow a locked wrist from the beginning of the draw.

Leather gunbelt mates perfectly with Kydex IWB holster in this excellent combo, both from Precision Holsters.
Leather gunbelt mates perfectly with Kydex IWB holster in this excellent combo, both from Precision Holsters.

That emergency non-dominant-hand side holster I mentioned wants to be a mirror image of what you usually carry. Darn few of us have as many reps as we probably should have running the defensive handgun “weak-handed”; a movement mirror image to what we usually do has a sort of pantograph effect that helps speed the learning process. If you’re a 1911 person, have at least one with an ambidextrous safety, ready to go if you suddenly become a newborn southpaw. (Did I mention, “been there”?)”

For shoulder rigs, find one that’s handy for you to reach. Pure horizontal (muzzle straight to the rear) is probably the fastest shoulder rig orientation, but won’t conceal well with a full-size 1911 unless you have a really deep chest. This writer likes muzzle perpendicular to the ground orientation, particularly for access through heavy outer garments, with a belt loop at the bottom to keep it in place. Nothing beats the time-tested Bianchi X15 orientation for this.

Wilderness Instructor belt of heavy stitched nylon with Blade-Tech mag pouch and WC 47-series Wilson Combat .45 mag. Combo is very concealable, very secure, and very fast and sure.
Wilderness Instructor belt of heavy stitched nylon with Blade-Tech mag pouch and WC 47-series Wilson Combat .45 mag. Combo is very concealable, very secure, and very fast and sure.

Critical Factors

We’ve mentioned the (dis)comfort factor in IWB carry. For regular use, your pants need to be about two inches larger in the waistband to achieve acceptable comfort level. For OWB, the 1911 has all its ammo in that magazine in its grip-frame, and will want to tilt outward from the body. The 5” barrel and commensurate length slide actually helps to push it back toward you for better concealment and stability, since the front end of the gun has the lower body pressing it in that direction. For maximum tight-to-the-body profile, light a candle to the memory of Roy Baker, who designed the Pancake holster circa late 1960s with leather flaring fore and aft of the holster body for the belt slots. This created two more points for belt tension to snug the gun up against the wearer. It has become one of the most widely-copied features in the holster industry.

With IWB carry, the concealing garment can ride all the way up to belt without revealing a pistol like this full-size Springfield Armory Range Officer .45.
With IWB carry, the concealing garment can ride all the way up to belt without revealing a pistol like this full-size Springfield Armory Range Officer .45.

Don’t neglect magazine pouches. The vast majority of 1911s have single-stack magazines: good for slimness because of better concealment and the ability to get more hand around the gun when firing, but leaving you with no more than nine rounds in your .45 or eleven in your 9mm. The fewer rounds in the gun, the more you’ll be depending on reloads if things go really bad. That flared-edge Roy Baker concept helps pull a spare magazine in tighter to the body for concealment. The slimness of single-stack 1911 magazines also makes it easier and more comfortable to carry two instead of just one.

Spare magazine configuration is a consideration. I like a flush-bottom magazine in the gun if concealment under, say, a tailored suit is paramount, but in a vertical magazine pouch magazine length doesn’t seem to impact concealment or carry comfort at all. A magazine with a wide floorplate tends to dig into the ribcage area when carried snug to the body, and a “GI” style flush bottom has a sharp edge that does the same, but the Wilson Combat 47-series magazine has neither of those problems and is my “Mama Bear” compromise preference for concealed carry of spare 1911 mags.

Conclusion

If you find none of the above makes you comfortable in daily carry with your full-size 5” barrel 1911, don’t despair. A quick run through the Springfield Armory catalog will show you versions with shorter barrels, shorter butts and lighter weight. There’s even the rounded-rear-butt profile option on the 9mm EMP4, a lightweight 1911 designed expressly around the short 9mm cartridge and, in my experience, both accurate and reliable.

If you like the way a full-size 1911 shoots for you, the above advice can get you there with acceptable comfort and discretion. So, it looks like the full-size 1911 might be just about right for CCW.

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Bear(ly) Armed—Bear Defense Calibers by Andrea “Andi” Bogard

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The end of spring is approaching. There are a few turkeys still gobbling, the morels are popping, mosquitos are multiplying and, around the forest, black bears have grudgingly rolled out of their sporadic winter snooze.

Spring bear hunting is a grand adventure, and there’s still some time left to chase them. But, as with pursuing any predator, there is (or should be) an extra layer preparedness. Come with me as we look at some fun and effective sidearm options for your spring bear forays and summer scouting expeditions.

First off, the scope of this little exercise is limited to black bear. Grizzly/brown bear regions require different levels of stopping power due to size, strength, etc., and not all of these selections hit that metric. We are going to look at caliber, platform, bullet and carry method options for the odyssey known as spring black bear hunting.

The four calibers we are going to focus on are 9mm, .357 Magnum, 10mm and .44 Magnum with a nod of respect to a few others.

Taurus 9mm

The 9mm—An Unexpected Companion

For many, the thought of carrying a 9mm as a potential black bear backup mitigator would be cause to clutch pearls and gasp in disbelief. And, they wouldn’t be entirely wrong, historically speaking. In years past, the 9mm hasn’t been offered with a bullet that would perform in that capacity. Thanks to several ammo manufactures, there are currently some great “bear-stopping” options on the market.

The 9mm Luger—also known as the 9mm Parabellum or 9×19—is an immensely popular and (thanks to modern ammunition innovations) versatile chambering. Bullets range from lightweight 90-115-grain target offerings to 150-grain critter stoppers—two or four legged.

In their Backcountry Defense line, Hornady offers a 138-grain DGH 9mm +P round with a protected point projectile for maximum penetration and energy delivery. In a 4-inch test barrel, this particular round delivers a muzzle velocity of 1150 fps and 405 ft.-lbs. of energy. At 50 yards, velocity drops to 1068 fps and energy to 350 ft.-lbs..

As most self-defense encounters happen much closer to the muzzle than 50 yards, the 9mm with appropriate ammunition is still a viable option for black bears.

Petite Power—The .357 Magnum

Bear Paw Print

The .357 Magnum is another one that might spark some debate as a bear option. But, for the small or recoil sensitive, the .357 is a great revolver-based choice. Remember, it doesn’t make any difference how much stopping power you have in hand if you can’t hit what you’re aiming at …

Like the 9mm, bullet selection has broadened significantly. There are lots of bear (un)friendly options from which to choose. Hornady currently makes a 165-grain DGH (Dangerous Game Handgun) load in the Backcountry Defense series. With a muzzle velocity of 1510 fps and 835 ft.-lbs. of energy, it is a great middle-ground option.

Next up is the 10mm. This is a delightful little powerhouse that is chambered in a semi-auto platform. The 10mm is a bit of a niche and enjoys a small but dedicated following as a cartridge.

The 10mm is available in bullet weights from 135-220 grains. With muzzle velocities from the low 1000s fps to 1400 fps, it can deliver great energy to the target. There are currently some good “defense” loads on the market for this chambering. A few worth mentioning are made by Buffalo Bore and Underwood. Ideal bullet construction is flat nosed or protected end to deliver maximum penetration and deposit energy.

Additionally, Hornady has a great DGH 10mm 200-grain load. Muzzle velocity is 1160 fps with 598 ft.-lbs. of energy. At 50 yards, this 200-grain projectile is traveling at 1077 fps and is still delivering 515 ft.-lbs. of energy. All Hornady data is from a 5-inch test barrel.

44 Magnum

Size, Weight and Recoil—The .44 Magnum

Switching gears a bit, the pearl clutchers can relax as we dig more into familiar bear sidearm territory—the eminent .44 Remington Magnum. The .44 Magnum, once revered as the most powerful handgun caliber, has enjoyed immense popularity and recognition as “the choice” for a bear sidearm. And they’re not wrong. Ballistically, the .44 Mag is both exceptional and effective. But there’s a downside.

Most .44 Mag. revolvers are chunky, girthy and a handful. From snub-nose hand cannons to long-barreled behemoths, the .44 Mag. delivers a lot of energy effectively in many forms. This is a positive when facing down a large, toothy critter. However, they do so with a lot of recoil and muzzle blast.

The basic ballistic profile of the .44 Mag. involves a projectile from 180-300 grains with velocities from 1000 to over 1600 fps. There are tons of options for .44 Mag. ammunition with many geared toward dangerous-game critters and defense.

Continuing with Hornady products, there is a 240-grain DGH (Dangerous Game Handgun) load with muzzle velocity of 1620 fps. The energy at the muzzle is 1398 fps and drops to 1147 fps at 50 yards (as tested with an 8-inch barrel). The capability of this round as a bear-stopper is vast.

Platforms, etc.

Calibers aside, platform and carry method are a symbiotic relationship all their own. From petite CC options to longer slide, full-frame concepts, there are lots of platforms from which to choose. Picking the one that fits your needs involves an evaluation of desired carry method.

Chest holster? Leg holster? Belt carry? Picking the carry method that’s comfortable (and effective) for you is critical. If it’s not comfy, you most likely won’t carry it consistently. In the same vein, if you don’t shoot it confidently, it won’t be overly effective under stressful circumstances.

A few things to consider when evaluating holsters:

Will you be carrying a pack with a hip belt? If yes, belt carry might be a little uncomfortable. Second, do you carry a bino chest harness? If yes, then make sure that if you’re interested in chest carry, the harness is compatible. Accessibility is important. Third, if hauling bait buckets, make sure that your carry method doesn’t impact range of motion with lifting/carrying.

Finding the right holster is key. It not only needs to be comfortable to wear and seamlessly integrated into your hunting gear/activities, it needs to keep your gun firmly retained and secure. Trigger protection is paramount—especially in some of the non-revolver options.

Honorable Mentions

The .45 ACP—A Timeless Staple

My first center firehandgun was a 1911 in .45 ACP. As a result, I’m a bit partial to it. While many prefer other options, I know what I’m comfortable shooting and have confidence in. When I chased black bears a few years back in my home state of Michigan, my 1911 was firmly strapped to my chest throughout my time in the woods.

327 Federal

.327 Federal—An Unexpected Alternative

The .327 Federal Magnum is typically not the first to spring to mind when it comes to black-bear defense. Ballistically, it has lots of interesting characteristics—akin to a .357 Magnum, but not as spicy. Practically, there is typically one more in the cylinder, which can be a benefit in a defensive situation.

.41 Remington Magnum—For Those That Go Against the Grain …

Andi running bait

The .41 Remington Mag is a very strong bear-defense option, ballistically speaking. While the .44 Magnum is the popular go-to for many (with good reason), the .41 Mag has a devout and niche fan base. Ammo availability is a lot less than the heavily popularized .44 Mag., but it’s a very effective option nonetheless.

With spring bear hunting in full swing, it’s time to get out there. From holster selection and carry method to caliber and bullet design, there are decisions aplenty. However, buying a gun is always a good idea. Whether duplicating an existing caliber in a new format, dabbling in something new, or checking out some new bullets, there’s no time like the present to get bear(ly) armed.

Happy Hunting!

Andi

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