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Ohio Self Defense Reform Bill Passes House Committee

Ohio Self Defense Reform Bill passes House Committee
Ohio Self Defense Reform Bill passes House Committee

Arizona -( Ohio bill HB 228 has passed out of the House Federalism and Interstate Relations Committe on a seven to three vote. The vote was along party lines, with seven Republicans voting for the bill and the three Democrats voting against the bill.
The Ohio legislature is looking to reform Ohio law on self-defense. Currently, Ohio appears to be the only state where the burden of proof in a self-defense case rests with the defender. When a person claims self-defense in Ohio, the defender has to prove that they acted in self-defense. In nearly every other state, the burden of proof is on the prosecution. They have to prove that the defender did *not* act in self defense. From the

HB 228 would place the burden of disproving a self-defense claim onto the prosecution, similar to how it is in almost every other state. Further, House Bill 228 would expand the locations that a person has no duty to retreat from before using force to defend themselves under both civil and criminal law.

Arizona flirted with this reversal of the traditional burden of proof for a decade. Prosecutors lobbied the legislature and reversed the ordinary burden of proof in 1996. It is much easier for prosecutors to obtain a conviction when the burden of proof is shifted to the defendant.
Harold Fish paid the price for the prosecutor’s power grab.
Harold Fish killed a man who was charging at him and yelling that he was going to kill him. The first investigator on the scene reported it was such an open and shut case, he classified it as self defense and did not arrest Harold. The county prosecutor did not like that assessment, so they replaced the first investigator and arrested Harold Fish.
After much public outcry, involving three separate bills passed by the Arizona legislature to change the law, a long appeals process, two vetoes by Democrat Governor Janet Napolitano (a former prosecutor), $700,000 dollars spent on legal defenses, and three years in prison for Harold Fish, the trial court was found to be in error, and Fish was freed. He died three years later.
It is this type of abuse within the legal system that HB 228 is meant to prevent.
Prosecutors in our society have enormous power. They can lie. They can recruit false witnesses. They can have obvious conflicts of interest. They can repeatedly bring prosecutions against people who have committed not crime, for personal reasons. The Supreme Court has ruled that they can not be sued for any of this. They have absolute immunity.
Prosecutors have incredible levels of power. Shifting the burden of proof in self defense cases away from the defendant is a small step in placing limits on that power.
Jim Irvine of Buckeye Firearms says that Ohio is the only state in the United States that has this burden of proof placed on the defender. From

“Ohio is the ONLY state in the U.S. with this absurd requirement for burden of proof,” said Jim Irvine, Chairman of Buckeye Firearms Association. “It has been talked about in legal seminars around the country for years. It is an embarrassment to Ohio.
“People under attack should be able to defend their life. They should not have legal hurdles to jump before acting to defend themselves. They should not be second-guessed for years over a decision they were forced to make in a second. Ohio law should protect the victim, not the aggressor. This bill corrects this problem with Ohio law.”

HB 228 has 34 sponsors in the House, and one in the Senate. The Ohio House (the legislative assembly) has 99 members, of which 66 are Republicans. The Ohio Senate has 33 members, of which 24 are Republicans.
The Ohio governor is Republican John Richard Kasich, Jr.
Governor Kasich has been making noises about supporting various restrictions on gun ownership. Those restrictions include outlawing private sales, allowing police to confiscate guns on the basis of basis of “gun violence protection orders” without any due process, and others.  It is unknown if Governor Kasich would sign this self defense reform bill.
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About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten
Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.


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Training with your 22 Long Rifle – Time Well Spent by PHIL MASSARO

It was more than likely your first rifle; in some configuration or another, a good .22 rimfire was probably what started you on the rifle path. The pursuit of rabbits and squirrels, the hours spent plinking tin cans, the sessions spent concentrating on the target’s center; all were important steps in becoming a hunter and shooter.
While the .22 Long Rifle cartridge has been a highly economical choice – despite the terrible dry spell five years past – it doesn’t have the same capabilities of the bigger and faster centerfire cartridges. Its mild velocity (and subsequent lack of recoil) is a blessing if you look at it in a certain light. Whether your rifle is scoped or iron-sighted, there is more than just a squirrel rifle here, there is a teaching tool for both the novice and the accomplished marksman alike, and you can practice for nearly any hunting or shooting situation imaginable.
Wind calls, trajectory compensation, trigger control, and even the basic shooting form can be practiced and polished by using nothing more than a simple .22 rimfire. I’ve relied on the one and only .22 that I call my own – though I have shot literally hundreds of rifles chambered for the little rimfire gem – to help me when my own shooting mechanics have fallen below the levels at which I know I can perform. Whether a long session of shooting big bore rifles has taken its toll, or it’s nothing more than a rough day at the bench, grabbing that old rifle – my first, a Christmas gift from my father – can easily show my flaws and help me correct them.

A good .22 Long Rifle can offer plenty of affordable practice, helping to combat the effects of heavy-recoiling rifles.

You can set up a small, short backyard range that can help hone your shooting skills, and will translate directly to your centerfire rifle when used at truly long ranges. Small steel plates, spinning targets, paper targets – especially handy for observing wind drift at various distances – can be sprinkled around a backyard range so as to provide a challenging range experience, especially if you have the room to place targets at varying angles to the predominant wind.

Safari Preparation

The Heym Express .404 Jeffery (top) and the Ruger 77/22 (bottom). The smaller rimfire rifle can be used in conjunction with the safari gun to sharpen your shooting skills.

For those of you headed on an African safari – especially those who will be using an iron-sighted big bore – the .22 rimfire can be invaluable. My own rifle is a Ruger Model 77/22, built like a scaled-down big game rifle with a three-position wing safety, and fully adjustable iron sights. It is a bolt-action repeater, so the mechanics are all there – with the exception of the detachable magazine – and I use mine not only to sharpen my skills with an iron sighted rifle but for practicing the fundamentals of shooting off sticks, proper bolt-cycling with the rifle on the shoulder, etc.

The Ruger 77/22 is built like a scaled-down big game rifle.


The fine brass front sight of the Ruger Model 77/22 allows for precision shooting with iron sights, and reinforces the technique when using your big bore rifle.

The sights aren’t quite the same as the wide-V of the big safari rifles, though I’m seriously thinking of switching to that style to make things more uniform, but the fine brass bead and adjustable rear sight allow me to dial things in.
I use a set of shooting sticks – the three-legged variety so popular across Africa – and do a considerable amount of practice from that shooting position at various targets around my little range. I can perfect the simultaneous grip on the forend of the rifle, as well as follow-up shots on the sticks without the recoil, report, and expense of shooting my .404 Jeffery or .416 Remington; I have found this practice to make me a better shot when it comes time to work with the big bore rifles. I also have a compact little Tasco 1.5-5×20 scope – with similar proportions to the scopes I use on my dangerous game rifles – that gives me the same look at a distant target that I’d have with the big guns. This combination has not only helped me but has taught the mechanics of shooting a big bore rifle to many hunters, without any chance of developing a flinch early on. I usually shoot 20-30 rounds per day when preparing for a safari.

Massaro with a 404 Jeffery on the shooting sticks, practicing for an upcoming safari

Long range work

I bought my wife a neat little Savage Mark II BRJ as a birthday gift, and we set it up with a Bushnell Rimfire Optics 3-9×40 scope, designed to have a number of features that will complement the rimfire rifle. It is set up just like any other long range scope, with ¼ MOA turrets and a side mounted parallax adjustment knob. The shooter can dial for both elevation and windage, and the rainbow trajectory of the .22 LR – especially beyond the 100-yard mark – can present a real challenge to the shooter.

The Savage/Bushnell rig offers the same style of features as many long range rifles, allowing the shooter to practice at shorter ranges with a rimfire rifle.

You can make a neat little dope card for your rifle, and the experimentation with different bullets and loads in varying wind conditions will be a real eye-opener, immediately translating to the wind calls at much further ranges with your centerfire rifle.

Mandrake Vermilyea, practicing dialing for elevation changes with the Savage/Bushnell combination.

If you so choose, Bushnell provides an elevation turret labeled for the trajectories of the .22 LR and the .17 HMR. The .22LR variant is marked in 25-yard graduations from 75 to 150 yards, with subtensions in-between for interpolation. It works rather well, and is a great exercise for using your rangefinder in conjunction with your elevation turret, and is very similar to the custom designs available from the various scope companies, where the turret is marked for various ranges according to your personal ammunition performance data, making hunting at longer ranges just a bit easier.

The Savage Mark II BRJ, topped with a Bushnell Rimfire Optics scope, fully equipped with turret adjustments for both elevation and windage.

It’s very easy to train a new shooter how to quickly range a target, and dial accordingly for the shot. The reticle of the Bushnell Rimfire Optics scope is a simple duplex crosshair, so there are no marks for holdover in either plane, and you’ll have to rely on dialing. This can be useful for varmints and furbearers at longer ranges, extending the applications of the .22 Long Rifle cartridge. I’ve used the .22 on prairie dogs with a traditional scope (no turret for dialing) out to 250 yards, and I know for certain this setup would’ve made life a lot easier on a hunt with that level of shooting, given the varying distances throughout the day.
My wife’s Savage is equipped just like your average long range rifle; it comes from the factory with the AccuTrigger, and provides an extra sling stud for attaching a bipod, so you can get in the same prone position and have a set up nearly identical to your centerfire rifle.

The Savage AccuTrigger gives the feel of a long range precision rifle, perfect for the back yard range.

At longer ranges, depending on weather and light conditions, you will actually be able to catch the bullet’s vapor trail and call your own shot. This type of training can be invaluable when transitioning to the centerfire rifles, especially with the lighter recoiling 6mm Creedmoor and .224 Valkyrie that will allow you to see a vapor trail at longer distances.

In Conclusion

Having a good bolt-action .22LR in your rifle lineup is certainly a good thing, and I believe once you start to use it for practice you’ll find yourself reaching for it quite often. While the two rifles I’ve highlighted are definitely close enough in appearance and function to their big game counterparts, there are many other choices that make equal sense. It may take you a bit to find the rifle/ammunition combination that gives you the best accuracy, but once you do you’ll see how much fun spending time with a rimfire rifle at the range can be. The lack of report will give your ears a break, and the virtually non-existent recoil can quickly help you establish your trigger control, even if used before and after shooting the centerfires.
My safari buddies and I have set our guns up to resemble the big sticks – as close as possible anyhow – and it has made a definite difference in how well the larger dangerous game rifles are shot. I take my Ruger – with its iron sights – out for squirrel hunts and the small targets that squirrels offer will most definitely sharpen your eye. It’s good practice, and when you consider the cost of ammunition for the .375, .416 and their ilk, the .22 LR represents a considerable value for what the shooter will gain for the session.

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J. C. Higgins J.C. Higgins Model 583.23 Bolt Action Shotgun in caliber 12 GA

I have had a lot of good experiences with Mr. Higgins. In that usually Sears has contracted with some good guns firms. Like High Standard or Winchester. For some reason though the guns do not have a fashionable name. So if one wants you can get a hi quality gun at a very reasonable price.

Win, win says I!

This shotgun therefore would make for a good starter gun for the new Rookie in my opinion.

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Flashback 30 Years: Guns Were in Schools … and Nothing Happened BY J. CHRISTIAN ADAMS

The millennial generation might be surprised to learn that theirs is the first without guns in school. Just 30 years ago, high school kids rode the bus with rifles and shot their guns at high school rifle ranges.

After another school shooting, it’s time to ask: what changed?

Cross guns off the list of things that changed in thirty years. In 1985, semi-automatic rifles existed, and a semi-automatic rifle was used in Florida. Guns didn’t suddenly decide to visit mayhem on schools. Guns can’t decide.

High school gun range 1985. “Obey instantly all firing line commands.”

We can also cross the Second Amendment off the list. It existed for over 200 years before this wickedness unfolded. Nothing changed in the Constitution.

That leaves us with some uncomfortable possibilities remaining. What has changed from thirty years ago when kids could take firearms into school responsibly and today might involve some difficult truths.

Let’s inventory the possibilities.

What changed? The mainstreaming of nihilism. Cultural decay. Chemicals. The deliberate destruction of moral backstops in the culture. A lost commonality of shared societal pressures to enforce right and wrong. And above all, simple, pure, evil.


Before you retort that we can’t account for the mentally ill, they existed forever.

Paranoid schizophrenics existed in 1888 and 2018. Mentally ill students weren’t showing up in schools with guns even three decades ago.

So it must be something else.

High school gun range.

Those who have been so busy destroying the moral backstops in our culture won’t want to have this conversation. They’ll do what they do — mock the truth.

There was a time in America, before the Snowflakes, when any adult on the block could reprimand a neighborhood kid who was out of line without fear.

Even thirty years ago, the culture still had invisible restraints developed over centuries. Those restraints, those leveling commonalities, were the target of a half-century of attack by the freewheeling counterculture that has now become the dominant replacement culture.

Hollywood made fun of these restraints in films too numerous to list.

The sixties mantra “don’t trust anyone over thirty” has become a billion-dollar industry devoted to the child always being right — a sometimes deeply medicated brat who disrupts the classroom or escapes what used to be resolved with a paddling.

Instead of telling the kid to quit kicking the back of the seat on a plane, we buy seat guards to protect the seat.
High school gun range, 1984.

If you think it’s bad now, just wait until the generation whose babysitter is an iPhone is in high school. You can hardly walk around WalMart these days without tripping over a toddler in a trance, staring at a screen.

The high school kids who shot rifles in school in 1985 were taught right and wrong. They were taught what to do with their rifle in school, and what not to do.

If they got out of line, all the other students and the coach would have come down on them hard. There were no safe spaces, and that was a good thing.

Culture is a powerful force for good. When good behavior is normalized and deviant destructive behavior is ostracized, shamed, and marginalized, you get more good behavior.

Considering evil in this debate makes some of you uncomfortable, but evil bathes all of these shootings.

I am reminded of Justice Antonin Scalia’s spectacularly funny and profound interview in 2013 when he toyed with a New Yorker reporter about evil. “You travel in circles that are so, so removed from mainstream America that you are appalled that anybody would believe in the Devil!”, he chortled.

Setting targets for rifle shooting inside a high school gun range.


Thirty years ago, kids who brought their rifles to the high school shooting range didn’t wonder about evil and cultural decay. They simply lived in a time in America when right and wrong was more starkly defined, where expectations about behavior were clear, and wickedness hadn’t been normalized.

The idea that guns caused the carnage we have faced is so intellectually bankrupt that it is isn’t worth discussing. Remembering where we were as a nation just 30 years ago makes it even more so. It’s time to ask what changed.

High school student with rifle inside high school range.
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How to Shoot Clay Pigeons

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Target shooting has been around for over 100 years. In its earliest forms, enthusiasts stuffed glass balls with feathers and then waited as their friends tossed them in the air to be blown apart mid-flight.
Since then, it has evolved from a leisurely day of hunting practice to a highly competitive international sport. Unfortunately, the feather-filled balls are a thing of the past. Now, clay pigeons are the preferred target.
Resembling a pigeon about as much as a cat resembles a TV, clay pigeons look more like thick little Frisbees than real birds. But that disc-like shape allows them to glide through the air quickly and consistently.
If it’s your first time on the range, make sure to wear proper eye and ear protection, and take time to get familiar with the gun and its safety features before you load a round.
Finally, before your first clay pigeon is thrown, figure out which of your eyes is dominant. Once you’re shooting, you’ll keep one eye closed while aiming.
To determine your dominant eye, extend your arm and point, covering a distant object with the tip of your finger while keeping both eyes open.
Keeping your finger over the object, close your left eye. If your finger continues to obscure the object, you are right-eye dominant. Otherwise, use your left eye to aim.

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10 Gun Tips You Need To Know About Flying With Guns

Posted by Tom McHale

on Jul 3, 2014 11:35:00 AM

Here’s a bold statement.
When you fly the friendly skies, you’ll experience more invasion of privacy, groping and unwanted scrutiny when you walk through the TSA checkpoint than when you try to check guns in your baggage.
I fly enough that the majority of currently employed TSA agents are intimately familiar with every square inch of my body. But groping aside, I’ve found checking guns by following the rules to be a simple and straightforward process – as long as you carefully follow the rules.
Be aware that there are always two sets of rules: those set by the TSA and those set by your airline. In a perfect world, they will be consistent with each other, but be aware, that doesn’t always happen.
Let’s review a checklist for hassle-free flying with guns.

Trolley1. Buy or borrow a lockable hard case.

Per the regulations, it can be a case with integrated combinations locks, but I prefer a case with multiple holes for heavy duty padlocks of my choosing. Do NOT use TSA locks on your gun case. This is a misunderstood area of the law and, technically speaking, it’s illegal for you to do so. Per the letter of the law, as discussed in the footnotes of this article, you alone must maintain possession of the keys or combination to open your gun case. You cannot lock it in such a way that others have access. By using TSA locks on your gun case, lots of people, just about anyone in fact, technically has access to your guns. TSA locks are NOT secure and not even TSA agents are supposed to have access to your case, once cleared, without you being present to unlock the case.
One more thing about cases. If you travel with a pistol, you might want to get a larger than necessary case, like this one. You can legally place other items besides your gun in the case, like cameras or computer equipment.

2. Check your airline’s website to review their policies.

While most are essentially the same, they don’t have to be. Print out the policy page to bring with you. With all that ticketing agents need to know, not every agent will have a complete understanding of their airline’s gun policy.

3. Review the TSA policy website for the latest information.

It can, and does, change. That’s your tax dollars at work folks. Print this out also, as different TSA agents have different understandings of their own policy. Really.

4. Unload your gun and magazine.

Complete this step while still at home! Check the chamber to make sure that’s empty. I like to pack my guns in the case with cylinder or action locked open so it’s very apparent the gun is in a safe condition. That’s not required, just good manners.
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5. Weigh your gun case and ammunition.

Most airlines will allow up to 11 pounds of ammunition. And, like any luggage, you will be charged more for any baggage weighing more than 50 pounds. This sounds like a lot, but when traveling to the Crimson Trace Midnight 3 Gun competition last year, my case with shotgun, rifle, pistol and ammunition tipped the scale past the 50 pound mark.

6. You can pack ammo in the same locking case.

This is another area that’s misunderstood and full of internet myth. Your ammo just needs to be stored in some type of safe container and not loose. Technically, you can keep ammunition in magazines, but I wouldn’t recommend it. It meets the letter of the law storage requirement, but too many airline and TSA agents will give you grief. Use a plastic ammo box or original cardboard packaging and you’ll be fine carrying that in the same lockable case as your gun.

7. Carry your gun case in the closed and locked condition into the airport until you meet the ticketing agent.

You can’t do curbside check in, so be prepared to go inside to your airline counter. When checking in, calmly tell the ticketing agent that you have a firearm to declare. It helps if you don’t yell something like “I’VE GOT A GUN!!!” Unless you live in one of the Republik states, the agent won’t even bat an eye. They deal with this all the time. The agent will tell you what do to and when. Some airports call TSA straight to the counter. Others have an airline agent escort you to a TSA checkpoint with your luggage. Just do what they say and you’ll be fine. At some point, they will have you fill out an orange declaration card and place it in your gun case.

8. Hang out and chill for a bit.

Don’t rush from the ticket counter to the gate. Once your gun case leaves your possession, there is still a chance TSA will need you to re-open the case. Most airports will tell you to wait for a bit in case they page you. The subtle message here is to always be sure to arrive at the airport plenty early if you plan to check a firearm. Time is your friend and the whole process will be a lot less stressful.

9. Make sure you bring the padlock keys in your carry on luggage.

I left mine in the car once and dropped them in my checked baggage another time. Fortunately, I figured out my error in time to correct it, else TSA would have been more than happy to cut my locks off.

10. Be prepared for surprises.

Yes, TSA might clear your gun case upon your departure. Yes, some other TSA agent may cut your locks off somewhere between your departure gate and your final destination. They’re not supposed to without a really good reason, but it happens. Again, that’s your tax dollars at work. You can yell, scream and stomp your feet, but you won’t win that battle. Accept the cost of new locks as part of doing business. On the other hand, if your guns are missing, I personally would tell the airline and destination TSA agents that I was calling the FBI immediately to report an interstate theft of firearms. That ought to get you some attention.
I’ve flown many, many times with one or more firearms and have never had a serious issue. Yes, some airports act differently, but I’ve never lost a gun or had a serious run in with the G-men.
The key is preparation and attention to detail. If you do everything right, your trip will be uneventful for both your and your guns.

Some extra footnotes

Here are a few things to be aware of that you may or may not encounter.
First, some airports, like Bend, Oregon, violate federal law. That’s a harsh statement, but it’s true, or was, the last time I traveled through there with guns. The TSA folks asked for my keys so they could inspect my gun cases in a back room, secure, TSA area. I was not allowed to accompany them. According to the Code of Federal Regulations:

Title 49: Transportation, Part 1540 – Civil Aviation Security: General Rules, Subpart B – Responsibilities of Passengers and Other Individuals and Persons, 1540.111 (c) (iv) – The container in which it is carried is locked, and only the passenger retains the key or combination.
Title 49: Transportation, Part 1544 – Aircraft Operator Security: Air Carriers and Commercial Operators,  Subpart C – Operations, 1544.203 (f) (iii) The container in which it is carried is locked, and only the individual checking the baggage retains the key or combination;

Basically, I, the owner, MUST not surrender my keys or combination to anyone. From a practical perspective, good luck with that. When fighting with the federal government over obscure details like this, you will not win in the short term. You may win in the long term, but odds are you won’t make your flight at the scheduled time. So choose your battles carefully. You can be right all day long and still not make it past the TSA checkpoint.
If you’re traveling with optics that you don’t trust to the baggage handlers, you can take those as carry on baggage. Obviously you have to remove it from your gun first! But it’s no problem carryon a scope onto the plane as long as there is no gun attached.
Avoid connecting through New York. Yes, this is another harsh statement, but too many folks have spent too many nights in jail and spent too many tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees not to mention it. If you are legally allowed to have a gun from your departure point, and legally allowed to have it at your destination, under federal law, you are supposed to be able to travel from point A to point B without interference. Unfortunately, some places, like New York, realize that they have more lawyers than you can afford, and choose to harass law abiding travelers anyway, knowing full well there’s not much you can do about it. Most times, if you have a connecting flight through New York, you’ll be fine. Your checked gun case will get moved on to the next flight and all will be well. The gotcha occurs when the travel gremlins arrive. If your flight is canceled or delayed, and you have to spend the night, now you are taking a gun from the airport baggage claim to the hotel then back to the airport again. And given ridiculous laws like the new SAFE Act, your gun is most likely illegal in New York. You may meet Officer Friendly when arriving at the airport the next morning. Welcome to the pokey and I hope you get along with your cell mate. I won’t schedule an itinerary through there for exactly this reason. It sounds far-fetched, yes, but tell that to the folks who have been arrested and harassed. Unfortunately, it happens.