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Fearful that the Right-to-Carry was getting too much good publicity

Gun Control Twist: Saving One Life “Does Not Justify” Right-to-Carry

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If It Saves But One Life Boo Hoo
If It Saves But One Life Boo Hoo

Fairfax, VA – -(Ammoland.com)- Gun control advocates often use some version of the phrase “if it saves one life” in order to justify their ineffective proposals.

This week, the anti-gun editorial page of the Chicago Sun-Times offered a different take.

Fearful that the Right-to-Carry was getting too much good publicity in the wake of an Illinois concealed carry permit holder’s heroic actions, the Sun-Times editorial board felt it necessary to lecture its readers, “One brave rescue of a Cicero cop doesn’t justify concealed guns.”
According to a news report from the Sun-Times, on September 13, Cicero Police Officer Luis Duarte and his partner were attempting to pull over a vehicle when the driver sped off. Officer Duarte and his partner gave chase and were able to immobilize the suspect’s car. Trapped, the driver retrieved a gun and fired at the officers, striking Officer Duarte four times.
As the officers and the suspect exchanged gunfire, a nearby motorist, and Right-to-Carry permit holder, exited his vehicle and came to the aid of the officers, firing at the gunman. The gunman was struck during the exchange and was later taken to the hospital in serious condition.
Following the incident, Cicero Police Superintendent Jerry Chlada praised the armed citizen, noting, “We were lucky enough to have a citizen on the street there who’s a concealed-carry holder, and he also engaged in gunfire.” Cicero town President Larry Dominick offered similar appreciation for the carry permit holder, stating, “He got out and started helping the police, which is something I’ve got to be proud of.” Illinois became a Right-to-Carry state in 2013, making it one of the more recent states to adopt a shall-issue permitting regime, and the last to adopt a system by which a citizen can be licensed to carry a gun for self-defense.
All of this commendation for the selfless act of an armed hero proved too much for the Sun-Times. Lamenting the support the incident might provide for the Right-to-Carry, the paper huffed, “Hang your argument on a single anecdote, and you can defend almost anything.” Going further, the editors argued that “one brave deed does not justify bad public policy.”
First, Right-to-Carry is not bad public policy. Right-to-Carry permit holders have proven themselves to be exceptionally law-abiding. Repeated examinations of Right-to-Carry permit holder revocation data in large states like Florida and Texas has shown that concealed carry permit holders are among the most law abidingdemographic in the country.
Second, instances of private individuals using firearms to defend themselves and others go well beyond the anecdotes that make the press. In his most recent analysis of the data on defensive gun uses, Florida State University Criminologist Gary Kleck determined that Americans use firearms for self-defense about 1 million times per year. Some of the Sun-Times’ ignorance on this matter might stem from the Center for Disease Control’s failure to report this information to the public.
To be sure, gun rights supporters enjoy individual stories of armed citizens confronting criminals – and there is no shortage of them. The Armed Citizen column, and before that Guns & Bandits, has been a staple of The American Rifleman since 1932. In 1996, NRA-ILA published a special compilation booklet of armed citizen stories where ordinary Americans had directly assisted law enforcement officers in their fight against crime.

The Sun-Times’s denigration of the Right-to-Carry and denial of defensive gun uses is nothing out of the ordinary. It’s the way they dismissed gun owners that is interesting.

Decades of anti-gun messaging has told the American public that if a gun control measure “saves just one life” any infringement on the rights of law-abiding gun owners is justified.

For example, in early 2013, President Barack Obama implored Congress to enact gun control by stating, “If there’s even one thing we can do to reduce this violence, if even one life we can save, we have an obligation to try it.” Vice-President Joe Biden reiterated the president’s sentiment, noting, “As the president said, if your actions result in only saving one life, they’re worth taking.”

A pair of older, Chicago-related examples occurred in the 1990s. In 1994, the Cook County Board of Commissioners passed a ban on commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms. Upon passage, Commissioner John P. Daley told the Sun-Times, “If this legislation saves one life, so be it.” In 1998, Mayor Richard M. Daley touted the Windy City’s frivolous lawsuit against the gun industry and other gun control measures in an op-ed for the Sun-Times. Demanding action, the mercurial mayor wrote, “One life lost is one too many.”
Coupled with the messaging of their anti-gun allies, the Sun-Times appears intent on creating a can’t-lose scenario for gun control. This holds that if even one life may be saved by a particular gun control measure, it must be adopted. However, if a measure permitting access to firearms for self-defense may save one life, it is not adequate justification to condone such freedom. Gun rights supporters should give this latest evolution in gun control rhetoric the same consideration as its traditional iteration: none.


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The Unique (Rare in other words & did not sell well at the beginning) Smith & Wesson S&W Model 53-2 The .22 Centerfire Magnum The Jet, Blue 6"



Smith & Wesson - S&W Model 53-2 The .22 Centerfire Magnum: The Jet, Blue 6

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These guns were produced from 1961-1974 and have tremendous value for any serious Smith & Wesson collector.
The S&W Model 53 introduced the .22 Remington Jet cartridge and is only one of two guns ever produced in the .22 Remington Jet caliber (The other being the Thompson Contender single shot).
They also usually came with an additional 22 Magnum cylinder too.
These guns have great appeal to varmint hunters and for field use. (Until you need to buy some factory ammo)
The .22 Jet cartridge “set-back” problems have been well documented but overrated.
Keeping the chambers clean with an occasional spray of “Gunscrubber” or naptha makes the gun as reliable as most revolvers.
The cartridge is a delight to reload, and .357 Magnum brass can be utilized to produce new cases.

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Sears / Ted Williams (Winchester 94 Lever Action Rifle), in Caliber 30-30

Now as anybody in my family can tell you. I know almost nothing at all about Baseball. But what I do know is this.
That generally these guns made under Ted Williams are a real SLEEPERS. 
I.E. A real steal!!  Because for some silly reason, folks do not like them. Even though for all intents & purposes they are a Winchester. 
So if you are in the market for a good deal then you might want to think about what I have mentioned! Good Luck! Grumpy
Ted Williams (Winchester) - Model 100  (Winchester 94) - Picture 1

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Ted Williams (Winchester) - Model 100  (Winchester 94) - Picture 7

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Supposedly Hitler's pistol

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Hitler owned several pistols. Both of these have been documented as belonging to him.

The one at top is a 7.65 mm Walther PP, and may have been the gun that he used to commit suicide. Hitler’s deputies reported that he killed himself and Eva Braun with a Walther PP in 7.65 mm, and it has long been assumed that it was this gun.

Hitler’s deputies took the gun immediately after his suicide and allegedly hid it, thinking it would be a powerful symbol when the Fourth Reich arose. They then burned his body. Or perhaps Hitler actually fled the bunker with Evan and the pistol and lived out his days in Argentina. Depends on what you believe .

The PP was a present to Hitler from Carl Walther, for Hitler’s 50th birthday. Replicas of it have been manufactured. Its whereabouts are the stuff of myth and legend.

The one at the bottom was apparently Hitler’s daily carry. It is a model 11A August Menz in 7.65 mm. It was engraved by Richard Schilling from Suhl and was a gift from Max Kehl.

Reports are that Hitler had a special pocket sewn into his pants to carry it.

It now resides at West Point.

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The Brits Who Fought For Hitler or how I really f**ked up my life!

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Dear Grumpy Advice on Teaching in Today's Classroom

The Sun's corona during a solar eclipse

Well I thought it was cool! Grumpy

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I found this really neat Swedish film about New York in 1911

https://youtu.be/aohXOpKtns0

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A Winchester Model 94 Carbine, Pre-1964 in 30-30

I just can not believe how much these fine old guns have gone up in value in my lifetime! Grumpy

Winchester - Model 94 Carbine, Pre-1964, Shotgun Buttplate, Blued, 20” Lever Action Rifle, MFD 1957, C&R - Picture 6
Winchester - Model 94 Carbine, Pre-1964, Shotgun Buttplate, Blued, 20” Lever Action Rifle, MFD 1957, C&R - Picture 7
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Winchester - Model 94 Carbine, Pre-1964, Shotgun Buttplate, Blued, 20” Lever Action Rifle, MFD 1957, C&R - Picture 10
This poor thing has obviously had a lot of bad luck when it came to owners.
As it looks like to me. That it has not been properly taken care of. As can be noted by the rust and the loss of bluing. Which was probably caused by somebody with blood on their hands. Grabbed it and did not quickly clean it off ever!

But even still with a little TLC & some skill from a good Gunsmith. This gun could be brought back from the Dark Side!
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SIG P210 Target Pistol – it is on my Someday List of Guns I want to own!

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The Chosen One: The Army’s M-17 Pistol Review by MARK MILLER

The SIG M-17 pistol is serving in combat with the US Army. The story has a happy ending, but it took years and millions of rounds to get there.
The competition for the Army’s Modular Handgun System (MHS) contract was one of the most rigorous and highly competitive review processes in the history of military firearms. It was scrutinized and contested and endlessly questioned.
SIG submitted a P320-based platform. The only true modular candidate, SIG’s XM-17 performed well during the selection under all conditions the Army could dream up. After over two million rounds of testing, the XM-17 became the M-17 and a new icon was born.
The service handguns chosen by the Army have always become essential weapons; the Remington New Army, the Colt Single Action Army, Browning’s M-1911 and the M-9 Beretta are all classics. Now you can get the latest chapter in this historic line.
Other manufacturers have been selling their versions of the MHS while SIG has been busy making guns for the Army.
Every branch of the military has adopted the M-17 and the smaller version, the M-18. At last, Sig has sent the military enough guns that they can make some M-17s for the rest of us. There are two civilian versions, The M17 Commemorative and the P320-M17 and they are on their way to an FFL near you.

P320-M17

The P320-M17 closely follows the specifications of the U.S. Army’s M17. The P320-M17 features a coyote-tan carry-length grip module available in three sizes and comes standard with a manual safety. Non-manual safety P320-M17 pistols will be shipped at a later date. There is a coyote-tan PVD coated stainless steel slide and black controls just like the pistols currently being shipped to the U.S. Army. The sights are a SIGLITE front night sight and removable Night Sight rear plate.
Many internet experts, who have never touched an M-17, believe that the small arms professionals in the Army, the Navy, the Marines, the Air Force, and the Coast Guard have gone through millions of rounds of extensive testing and picked the wrong gun.
After my own limited test firing, just over three thousand rounds through the M-17 and the 320-M17, the M-17 is my choice too and I believe that the army chose the best gun for the job.

The P320-M17 easily clangs the CTS steel targets at 50 yards. At the Academy we shot steel out to 75 yards.

The P320-M17 Specs:

Total length: 8″
Barrel length: 4.7″
Weight (incl. magazine): 29.6 oz.
Height: 5.5″
Width: 1.3″
Sight radius: 6.6″
MSRP: $768.00
I got a 320-M17 a month ago. I have taken it to classes as a student and an instructor. I have shot thousands of rounds of ball and hollow points with no issues and no cleaning. I have lubricated it and I will probably clean it when it gets dirty. This is not a torture test; the gun just isn’t dirty enough to require cleaning yet.

The P320-M17 comes with two 17 round magazines

I had the opportunity to travel to New Hampshire to visit the SIG SAUER factory. The technology is highly automated with multiple quality checks. I got to walk the production floor and see every step of the process from machining to assembly. Trained professionals assemble guns and reject any component which isn’t perfect, but that is only half the story.
There is a quality plan for each part which dictates how many parts from each lot are checked at special robot laser verification stations which check every angle of a part. These check stations are connected to each of the automated CMC machines and automatically update the instructions to the machines, in real time.
Problems are anticipated and avoided. This reduces bad parts, keeps them out of the supply chain and cuts costs so SIG can make better and less expensive guns. They test fire every gun and I got to witness the process while I was there.
I also got to go to the SIG Academy and shoot the 320-M17 for a day under strict the tutelage of a couple of former Special Forces operators (one who is still active) on their staff. I shot 400+ rounds of SIG FMJ ammunition at paper and steel targets.
We ran the guns hard and shot them hot. We worked up to multiple target drills and shooting a scenario in and around cars and barricades. The guns got hot and dirty and they all ran.
The M17 has a great trigger and good sights; I can’t tell a difference in performance or feel between the M-17 and the P320-M17. The contract specification for the M-17 was shooting a ten round four-inch group at 35 yards with crappy ball ammo which it will do all day.
The civilian versions of the M-17 are just as accurate and fun to shoot. I have used a variety of heavy and light bullets in full metal jacket and hollow points. The 320-M17 fed them all.

The P320-M17 was reliable and accurate with ball ammo

The feel and the grip angle are like the rest of the P-320 family. The manual safety is ambidextrous and placed so that the thumb rides on it naturally when you assume a firing grip. The ambidextrous slide lock sits right in front of the safety. It takes a little getting used to, but it is ergonomic and easy to use.
There is some debate about external safeties. The MHS requirements specified a safety and the M-17 delivered. The M-1911 had a well-placed safety, the M-17 is better, inspired by competition modified civilian 1911s.
There are a lot of things soldiers do, like individual movement techniques (Google it), which are fundamentally different than police or civilian applications. Military guns get banged and dropped and abused. Some soldiers jump out of airplanes wearing them.
With training, a manual safety is no slower and provides an extra layer of protection. Nobody wants to get shot doing a PLF (Parachute Landing Fall).

Speed drills at 15 yards were no problem for the P320-M17

The P320-M17 groups well at 15 and 25 yards.

The P320-M17 comes apart like any other SIG P-320. The original specifications for the XM-17 required a special tool to remove the takedown lever. This requirement was changed and now both the Army M-17s and the civilian variants have the same removable takedown lever as the P-320. The military M-17 and the Commemorative require a special tool to disassemble the slide. The trigger modules have the serial number and are completely removable.

The P320-M17 slide markings

The Commemorative

The M17 Commemorative pistol shares the same components, coatings, and markings as the original pistol that was awarded the U.S. Army contract for the modular handgun system (MHS).
Just like the military M-17, the Commemorative comes with a coyote-tan carry-length grip module and a coyote-tan PVD coated stainless steel slide. The Commemorative has coyote-tan colored controls just like the original pistols shipped to the 101st Airborne.

The Commemorative is an exact replica of the first M17s the military got. SIG has made 5,000 available to the public. It even ships in the same cardboard box that the military gets it in.

As a side note, SIG is no longer offering the coyote-tan colored controls, even for the military. So the civilian version of the M17 looks just like what the military is currently getting.
The pistol features a SIGLITE front night sight and removable Night Sight rear plate with the same optic cut as specified by the MHS contract. It comes with two 21-round magazines, one 17-round magazine and a manual safety.
Only 5,000 M17-Commemorative Edition pistols have been produced. Each one carries a unique identifier (UID) just like the Army guns. From the pistol to the same cardboard packaging as delivered to the U.S. Army, the M17-Commemorative Edition is identical to the U.S. Army’s official M-17 service pistol.
Register your M17-Commemorative and you get an official certificate of authenticity and a commemorative challenge coin, both with serial numbers matching your M17-Commemorative pistol.
To complement these guns, an M17 Collector’s Case is available separately at sigsauer.com/store.  The case is a solid cherry box, with dark mahogany stain, a tempered glass top, a brushed nickel latch and a keyhole back for optional wall-hanging.
The M17 Collector’s Case features a slate-grey flocked foam insert with an affixed U.S. Army logo, and precision laser placement cuts for the pistol, certificate and Official Challenge Coin.

M17 Commemorative pistol in optional M17 Collector’s Case

M17 Collectors Case MSRP: $199.99 (sold separately at sigsauer.com/store)

The M17-Commemorative Specs:

Total length: 8″
Barrel length: 4.7″
Weight (including 17rd magazine): 29.6 oz
Height: 5.5″
Width: 1.3″
Sight radius: 6.6″
MSRP M17-Commemorative Edition Pistol: $1,122.00
 
For more information on the SIG M17 visit SIG by clicking Here. 
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My own uninformed opinion about this pistol. Is that it does not have an exposed hammer. Which could tell somebody if the weapon could be cocked and ready to go or not.
Since  anybody who has been around guns and human beings knows from experience. There are going to be some idiot who is going to have the gun loaded and ready to go. just like on the TV or cell Phone now.
Which will lead to an “accidental” discharge & hopefully nobody getting hurt. But we know that in the real world somebody is going to get hurt.
Just saying!- Grumpy