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What Is This Surplus Ammo Redux or One Of These Things Is Not Like the Other by The Furminator

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A “friend” sold me a can of 7.62×51 quite a few years ago. It just didn’t look right and despite his assurances that a mutual acquaintance had shot it and deemed it accurate and serviceable I thought I’d better do my due diligence. I was right to be wary.
One might expect a can to show some age after spending longer on the planet than its new owner, but this still looks pretty funky for what purports to be 300 Rounds, 7.62MM Ball, L2A2, RG 03 15 60. The cartridges are obviously copper-washed and attract a magnet like ants to a picnic.
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An Internet search brings up numerous forum posts from way back in the aughts by other new owners of this ammo that was making the rounds at gun shows in those days. Turns out it’s – drumroll please – Chinese knock-off. Ya Think?
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The head stamps don’t look right and it turns out even the Mk. 3 chargers have forged MTY 60 stamps. It’s predictably reported to be highly corrosive. Some who have shot it say it’s very dirty, others that it’s no more so than other cheap surplus. Apparently it shoots better than one would expect.
The story seems to be that Norinco forged some US M14s and this ammo was intended to accompany them for delivery to separatist groups in the Philippines and elsewhere. According to a 2015 article in African Hunter magazine it has also turned up in Zimbabwe at the site of a rhino poaching and the author claims to have run a police lab test confirming that the primers are corrosive.
I take good care of my rifles and I have no interest in the kind of stripping and cleaning required after shooting this stuff. Unless the SHTF my heirs are going to find it out in the garage preserved in a heavy coat of sawdust.
Caveat Emptor.
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Here are the House Republicans who broke with the party on guns by: Mychael Schnell

(The Hill) – A handful of House Republicans bucked their party to vote for gun legislation on Wednesday, supporting measures that were introduced after the mass shootings in Buffalo, N.Y. and Uvalde, Texas last month.

The marquee piece of legislation that cleared the chamber was the Protecting Our Kids Act, a package of bills that seek to tighten gun restrictions. Among the provisions are raising the minimum age to purchase a semi-automatic weapon from 18 to 21 and banning civilians from using high-capacity magazines.

The legislation is doomed in the Senate because of widespread GOP opposition. The package passed the House in a largely party-line vote of 223-204. One Republican did not vote.

Five Republicans broke from the party in supporting the measure: Reps. Adam Kinzinger (Ill.), Anthony Gonzalez (Ohio), Brian Fitzpatrick (Pa.), Chris Jacobs (N.Y.) and Fred Upton (Mich.).

Kinzinger, Gonzalez, Jacobs and Upton are all not seeking reelection this year. Jacobs bowed out of seeking another term last week after he came under fire within the party for expressing support for an assault weapons ban.

The lawmakers voted for the package despite party leadership advocating against the legislation. Minority Whip Steve Scalise’s (R-La.) office sent a memo to House GOP offices on Tuesday encouraging members of the conference to vote “no” on the sweeping measure.

“In the wake of the senseless, malevolent shootings seen in recent months, the Majority has thrown together this reactionary package comprised of legislation that egregiously violates law-abiding citizens’ 2nd Amendment rights and hinders Americans’ ability to defend and protect themselves and their families,” the memo read.

In addition to voting on the entire package, the House also held votes on each individual provision. The full package, however, is the only piece of legislation that will be sent to the Senate for consideration.

Last week, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said the House would vote on each provision “to place Republicans on record on each of these issues relating to gun safety.”

Six of the seven provisions passed in largely party-line votes, with only a handful of Republicans joining Democrats. The last provision, however, had widespread bipartisan support. It orders the attorney general to submit a report to congressional committees detailing individuals who could not purchase a firearm because they failed a background check.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, recommended that members vote against the first six provisions, but signaled support for the final one.

Kinzinger, Fitzpatrick and Jacobs supported all six provisions that Jordan recommended the conference oppose. A number of other Republicans joined the trio in voting for some of the individual measures.

The provision that would impose a ban on bump stocks for civilians received the most GOP support among the measures that Jordan recommended voting against.

The initiative passed in a 233-194 vote, with 13 Republicans bucking the party: Reps. Mike Turner (Ohio), John Katko (N.Y.), Anthony Gonzalez (Ohio), Chris Jacobs (N.Y.), Nicole Malliotakis (N.Y.), Chris Smith (N.J.), Maria Salazar (Fla.), David Valadao (Calif.), Ken Calvert (Calif.) David Joyce (Ohio), Kinzinger, Upton and Jacobs.

The provision that calls for raising the minimum age for purchasing a firearm from 18 to 21 cleared the House in a 228-199 vote. Ten Republicans supported that effort: Turner, Katko, Upton, Gonzalez, Fitzpatrick, Kinzinger, Jacobs, Malliotakis, Smith and Salazar.

The list of GOP defectors was similar for the measure to mandate that untraceable firearms and guns without serial numbers, also referred to as ghost guns, undergo background checks and receive serial numbers.

The House passed the provision in a 226-194 vote, with eight “yes” votes: Fitzpatrick, Kinzinger, Jacobs, Katko, Malliotakis, Upton, Gonzalez and Smith.

On a provision creating new federal crime offenses for gun trafficking and straw purchases of firearms, which is when people who are not able to clear background checks purchase firearms through a proxy, 7 Republicans bucked the party to support the measure in a 226-197 vote.

Fitzpatrick, Kinzinger, Malliotakis, Gonzalez, Jacobs, Salazar and Katko all voted “yes.”

Four Republicans voted for the provision that calls for prohibiting civilian use of ammunition magazines that have more than 15 rounds: Kinzinger, Jacobs, Upton and Fitzpatrick. The measure passed in a 220-207 vote.

The provision that received the least GOP support seeks to bolster safe storage of guns in homes where minors may have access to the firearms. Kinzinger, Fitzpatrick and Jacobs were the only GOP defectors. The effort, however, ultimately cleared the House in a 220-205 vote.

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Happy Friday! NSFW

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A Browning – Diana Grade, 28ga. 28″ Barrels Choked (Its only $27 K by the way)

Browning - Diana Grade, 28ga. 28" Barrels Choked SK/SK. #52217

Browning - Diana Grade, 28ga. 28" Barrels Choked SK/SK. #52217

Browning - Diana Grade, 28ga. 28" Barrels Choked SK/SK. #52217

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Hopefully you will like these! Grumpy

 WHEN SUPERFICIAL PEOPLE WANT 
GUNS AND I AM OKAY WITH THAT | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

 DK1911 | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

Brace Yourselves X is Coming |  “OF EVERY ONE HUNDRED MEN, TEN SHOULDN’T EVEN BE THERE, EIGHTY ARE NOTHING BUT TARGETS, NINE ARE REAL FIGHTERS… WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE THEM… THEY MAKE THE BATTLE. AH, BUT THE ONE… ONE OF THEM IS A WARRIOR… AND HE WILL BRING THE OTHERS BACK.” ~HERICLETUS, 500 B.C. | image tagged in memes,brace yourselves x is coming | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

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I Would Do Anything For You |  SELL YOUR GUNS TO THE GOVERNMENT; I WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR YOU | image tagged in i would do anything for you | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

What is your favorite caliber hand gun? | image tagged in guns | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

Protect the treats |  DO NOT MESS WITH KITTIES TREATS | image tagged in cats | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

 GREAT SIGN FOR 
GUN LOVERS HOMES | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

 THE 2ND AMMENDMENT APPEARS TO BE STRONG IN THE FUTURE | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

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We were amused by these! Grumpy

 FOR WHEN YOU NEED TO 
TAKE SOMETHING OUT, BUT 
IT’S WAAAY OVER THERE… | image tagged in guns | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

5 Barrel Shotgun |  5 BARRELS NO WAITING | image tagged in shotgun | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

BRANDON HERRERA | The only guy to drink White Claw and still be a complete bad-ass | image tagged in funny,demotivationals,ak guy,brandon herrera,white claw | made w/ Imgflip demotivational maker

Bubba gunsmithing 101 |  When you duct tape a sawed-off double barrel shotgun under an SKS | image tagged in rise my glorious creation,firearmfriendly,megamind | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

4th of July Scenario |  What do you plan on doing if antifa terrorists try breaking in here to kill you? Either you run them over or I’ll open a window and start shooting back at whoever tries to do that | image tagged in memes,the rock driving,self defense | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

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Come and Buy |  A PLACE THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE A GUN; AND WALK OUT AFTER ABOUT 30 MINUTES WITH IT. WHATS WRONG WITH MY PURCHASE? CALIFORNIA CAN'T STOP IT | image tagged in arizona,too many guns | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

I prayed the police would come, but nobody showed up |  WHEN THERE ISN'T TIME TO DIAL 911; DIAL 1911. | image tagged in clint eastwood,guns,911,1911,movies | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

 

 

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Grumpy’s 1st Annual rant about The World of Guns