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Reloading Ammo by Feel

There are many techniques discussed when talking about reloading ammo but I don’t see many articles suggesting that feel is very important to successful ammo making. Proper reloading “Feels Good”.

They don’t make transparent dies yet so feeling your way around the processes in vital. Once you learn how to feel your way around reloading ammo will be easier and more enjoyable. Using the feeling method will benefit you once you get used to doing it that way.

Paying attention at all times is vital to safely reload. Reloading by feel is a great quality control method but don’t substitute it for visual inspection. Making your ammo is a safe and enjoyable hobby but it is necessary to follow certain procedures.

Sizing And DecappingRead

Normally after you inspect and clean your brass sizing and decapping is your first operation.

A split case will feel too easy to size.

Sizing brings the case neck to the correct size to hold a bullet while the body is squeezed down a bit to enable chambering. Most dies decap the case also, meaning the old primer is removed.

Decapping has some feel so if the primer seems too hard to remove there is a couple of reasons. If you are doing military cases especially foreign, they may have a Berdan Primer. Trying to decap that with a standard setup will result in a broken pin and possibly the stem might get bent which will ruin it. Military primers are harder to remove than the Boxer type so you should have some spare pins and stems especially if you do a lot of military brass. The reason is the crimp they use, which is a general pain in the neck, before you deprime it has to be dealt with in some manner.

Failure to do that will make priming very difficult and can ruin the primer.

I ream out my primer pockets as that seems to be the best way to deal with it. The operation involves some resistance which depends on the size and brand of the case and the type of lubricant used.

                                                             Tungsten Dies

You can buy reloading dies for most handgun rounds and I would suggest that you spring for a few extra bucks to buy them.

They usually eliminate the need for lube which saves time and the die last longer.

There is also a small amount of pressure required to remove the old primer as well.

When you get set up you will notice the resistance involved and it should be the same for all of the cases. If it is too easy, you might have a split case or slipped in the wrong one. If you have a difficult time sizing the case perhaps you forgot to lube it in the instance of a rifle or handgun without using a tungsten die. If you get an unlubed rifle case stuck in a die, you have a serious situation.

Split Cases

You will need a stuck case remover tool and some effort to remove it. Rifle cases need to be lubed around the body in order to size them easily. Don’t put lube around the shoulder area, as that won’t help out plus will produce hydraulic dents on the shoulders. If you have military cases, especially foreign made make sure that the primers are of the boxer type. Make sure that there aren’t any foreign substances in the case.

Foreign Made Brass with strange headstamps

Range brass might have a smaller case inside or have some dirt in the brass. That is one reason why you should inspect the brass prior to sizing. Trying to decap a Berdan type primer with a conventional set up will result in the assembly getting bent and breaking the decapping pin. That is an aggravation we can do without. That is where feel comes in handy to avoid those headaches.

You can easily feel these when re-loading.Read

Some brands of cases are more difficult to size then others due to the construction some being thicker than others. Therefore, if you are mixing brands during sizing that might account for some of the feeling difference. There is some controversy about mixing brands of cases for general shooting. I am here to tell you that it does not hurt a thing to mix them up as long as they are good cases. I have done a lot of ammo testing in various ways and except under narrow circumstances, it doesn’t matter if the brands are mixed. If you are working with max or super accurate target loads then you might want to use the same brand. Of course they all have to be trimmed to exactly the same length and the primer pockets and flash holes have to be exactly the same and it would be desirable to have the same lot number. If you don’t do those thing there is no point in worrying about brands.

Priming

After sizing, priming is usually the next step. Seating a primer generates a little resistance which is ordinary. If the primer is too easy to seat the pocket might be expanded which usually results from shooting loads that are too hot. Once the pocket is expanded, too much the case is not good for anything other than a display round.

                                           Slight Bulge in 45 Colt Brass (Top)

If the primer is too hard to seat there may be a couple of reasons. One is the pocket might have some residue which can easily be cleaned out. Military cases frequently have a crimp in the pocket, which needs to be removed. I use a reamer for that task as I do a lot of military cases for various projects. There is a primer pocket expander available but I don’t care for it but it might be worth trying. I have run across some brands of foreign cases that have pockets that are too small or shallow to easily seat a primer. I either avoid them or slightly ream out the pocket. If you use too much force to seat a primer some of the compound might come out which will adversely affect the performance of the ammo.

Seating

Seating the bullet is done by feel also. I always chamfer the inside of the case mouth which makes seating easier and more consistent. You will have some feel, which is normal. If the bullet seats too easily you might have a split neck. Another possibility is the brass is too thin.

I have used one brand of brass in the 8 X 57 caliber which has necks that are too thin and the bullets aren’t tight enough. That will cause inconsistent ammo among other problems including bullets dropping down in the cases. I size those necks in a .318 die, which helps, but normally I will buy another brand of brass to avoid that headache.

Normally putting in powder does not generate a lot of feel but you can watch the measure to see if the powder goes down at every throw. You should look inside the cases to insure that each one is properly charged. Occasionally a small piece of paper or some other foreign object can obstruct the powder flow. With compressed loads there would be some feel but it shouldn’t be excessive. Occasionally you can hear the powder crunch a little. That isn’t necessarily a bad thing if you are using the right powder. If you have to use excessive force then you will have to back off as excess pressure seating the bullet can bulge the case.

                                      A dimple over compressed powder.

Another cause might be bullets that are a tiny bit too small which is not common but can happen. Occasionally an expander plug might be too large causing loose fitting of the bullet a situation I occasionally encounter. Very careful polishing of the expander may correct that problem. If they are too difficult, it might be thick brass at the neck. That could be especially true if you necked down the case from a larger caliber such as making 243’s from 308 cases. You would have to either turn down the case necks or ream them out. Thick necks will cause difficult chambering and possibly dangerous high pressures. Like every other operation when seating bullets, they should all feel the same. Remember you are dealing with dimensions that are in the .001 inch and that can make a difference.

A crumbled case from too much pressure when seating bullets.

This is something that you should have felt.

Crimping

If you are crimping the bullets, there is also a feel there. Once you get use to using the feel method the crimping can be felt and if there is a problem you will realize it. The cases have to be the same length in order to have a consistent crimp. If you are loading cases of different lengths some will crimp ok but others will either not crimp as they are too short or a long case will buckle and you can feel either situation. For more consistency, all bottleneck cases should be inside chamfered. The same will go for some straight cases though you will have to determine that. I seldom chamfer straight unless I trimmed them. If the feel is consistent, chances are the ammo will perform better as it will be more consistent.

Cause: a crimp die that was improperly set.

Learning the feel method will help you out a great deal when loading ammo. Making good ammo has its challenges so anything that you do to give you an edge is always good.

Like most things in life you get out of it what you put into it.


About the late: Bob Shell

A Custom Reloader of Obsolete and Antique Ammo, Bob Shell, writes about the subject of Guns, Ammo, Shooting and Related Subjects

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If you own an AR-15, you are well acquainted with the 5.56 NATO. Along with its civilian sibling, the .223 Remington, this round makes up a massive portion of the ammo market for the AR platform.

Because of the AR’s popularity, manufacturers have created numerous rounds for this rifle. AR cartridges include, among many others, the 6.5 Grendel. The 6.5 may not carry the same level of fame, but it has an active, loyal fanbase.

Why?

Because it delivers excellent downrange capability and extended hunting potential from the popular AR platform.

Should you make the switch from 5.56 to 6.5? Should the Grendel be your next hunting round? Let’s take a close look to find out…

5.56mm NATO or 6.5 Grendel: Quick Comparison

Now that we understand the performance capabilities, we can identify the advantages of each cartridge…

Advantages of the 6.5 Grendel:

  • Stronger energies, especially downrange.
  • A slightly wider bullet creates larger wound channels.

Advantages of the 5.56 NATO

  • Faster speed, especially within 200 yards.
  • A large market of affordable ammunition makes it better for high-volume target shooting.

6.5 Grendel vs 5.56: Side by Side

6.5 Grendel

5.56 NATO

Bullet Diameter

0.264 inches

0.224 inches

Neck Diameter

0.293 inches

0.253 inches

Base Diameter

0.439 inches

0.377 inches

Case Length

1.52 inches

1.76 inches

Overall Length

2.26 inches

2.26 inches

Case Capacity

0.151 cubic inches

0.13 cubic inches

Bullet Weights

90 – 130 grains

55 – 77

Typical Firearm

AR-15 semiautomatic rifles

AR-15 semiautomatic rifles

How are They the Same?

5.56 ammunition (left) side by side with 6.5 Grendel ammo (right).

The obvious similarity (and the reason we are comparing these rounds) is that they are both loaded into the AR-15 rifle. This firearm, which has been called “America’s rifle,” has many advantages, including nearly unlimited customizability and practical versatility. 5.56 ammo (and we’ll include .223) is the standard load for the AR-15, while the 6.5 Grendel attempts to give AR shooters enhanced ballistic capabilities.

Physically they are different, but there is one notable similarity: the length. Both fit into the AR chamber at 2.26 inches in length, although other measurements, such as bullet diameter and case width, make them easily distinguishable.

Physical Specs

The physical differences are obvious. The 6.5 Grendel’s bullet is wider, although it’s not a major difference. The most notable difference is the bullet weights. With a wider projectile, the 6.5 Grendel packs bullets weighing as much as 130 grains, and they can be even higher with specialty-load ammunition. The 5.56 NATO mostly tops out around 77 grains, while the majority of rounds are a standard 55-grain.

There is also a difference in case length (the 5.56’s is longer) and case width (the Grendel’s is wider). This creates a difference in total capacity, with the Grendel having a bit more room for propellant.

What’s Cheaper to Shoot?

You might assume that the 5.56 NATO would have a massive advantage in ammo availability. This is sort of, but not completely true. 6.5 Grendel ammo, essentially, is just as readily available as the 5.56 NATO, if you are strict about not including .223 in the calculation. Since a 5.56 chamber can also load the .223 Remington. (.223 Remington rifles, it should be noted, should not load the higher-pressured 5.56.) This gives 5.56 users access to the vast assortment of .223 ammunition, which is one of the most widely sold cartridges on the planet.

With the availability of bulk and military surplus ammo, the 5.56 is often a cheaper option, although many 6.5 Grendel rounds have comparable prices.

6.5 Grendel vs 5.56 Ballistics

Firing 5.56 ammo in a Smith & Wesson AR-15 at the shooting range.

To compare these two rounds, we took a simple approach. We selected five products from each cartridge, tallied the manufacturer stats, and calculated the average. This approach, while imperfect, provides a decent method for comparing the two rounds.

Velocity Comparison

6.5 Grendel

Muzzle (fps)

100 Yards

200 Yards

300 Yards

400 Yards

500 Yards

90-grain Varmageddon (Nosler)

2,800

2,549

2,311

2,086

1,874

1,677

100-grain ELD-VT V-Match (Hornady)

2,730

2,531

2,340

2,158

1,984

1,819

115-grain TAC-TX BT (Barnes)

2,590

2,367

2,155

1,954

1,765

1,590

120-grain Fusion MSR (Federal)

2,600

2,346

2,107

1,881

1,674

1,485

130-grain Premier Match (Remington)

2,400

2,251

2,108

1,969

1,836

1,711

AVERAGE

2,624

2,409

2,204

2,010

1,827

1,656

 

5.56 NATO

Muzzle (fps)

100 Yards

200 Yards

300 Yards

400 Yards

500 Yards

55-grain Target & Practice (Winchester)

3,180

2,786

2,425

2,092

1,787

1,516

62-grain FMJ Frontier (Hornady)

3,060

2,714

2,394

2,095

1,820

1,571

68-grain BTHP Match Frontier (Hornady)

2,960

2,697

2,449

2,215

1,993

1,786

70-grain TSX-BT (Barnes)

2,850

2,568

2,303

2,054

1,822

1,609

75-grain BTHP Match (Hornady)

2,910

2,675

2,452

2,240

2,039

1,848

AVERAGE

2,992

2,688

2,405

2,139

1,892

1,666

The 6.5 Grendel was created to increase the performance capabilities of the AR-15. As we’ll see, it achieved this goal in many respects. But in velocity, at least close range, it appears to fall short. From the muzzle averages, it’s about 250 feet per second slower than the 5.56 NATO. There is plenty of overlap, but the light 55-grain 5.56 rounds deliver speeds over 3,100 fps, which makes it blazing fast compared to most AR rounds.

Downrange, however, the 6.5 Grendel is catching up. At 500 yards, the difference in averages narrows to a mere 10 fps, which is, for all practical purposes, insignificant. Downrange the stats are similar, but the 5.56 wins this comparison thanks to better muzzle and short-range speeds.

Energy

6.5 Grendel

Muzzle (t-lbs)

100 Yards

200 Yards

300 Yards

400 Yards

500 Yards

90-grain Varmageddon (Nosler)

1,567

1,298

1,067

869

702

562

100-grain ELD-VT V-Match (Hornady)

1,655

1,422

1,216

1,034

874

735

115-grain TAC-TX BT (Barnes)

1,713

1,431

1,186

975

796

646

120-grain Fusion MSR (Federal)

1,801

1,467

1,183

943

747

588

130-grain Premier Match (Remington)

1,663

1,463

1,282

1,119

973

845

AVERAGE

1,680

1,416

1,187

988

818

672

 

5.56 NATO

Muzzle (ft-lbs)

100 Yards

200 Yards

300 Yards

400 Yards

500 Yards

55-grain Target & Practice (Winchester)

1,235

948

718

534

390

281

62-grain FMJ Frontier (Hornady)

1,289

1,014

789

604

456

340

68-grain BTHP Match Frontier (Hornady)

1,323

1,098

906

741

600

482

70-grain TSX-BT (Barnes)

1,263

1,026

825

656

516

402

75-grain BTHP Match (Hornady)

1,410

1,192

1,001

836

692

569

AVERAGE

1,304

1,056

848

674

531

415

We now see the purpose of the 6.5 playing out in the stats. It’s more powerful from start to finish, and demonstrates a superior level of energy that makes it more capable for long-range hunting.

With a wider bullet and energies hovering around 1,000 ft-lbs at 300 yards, it clearly makes a better option for moderate game like deer and hog. Four out of five of the Grendel rounds were above 900 ft-lbs at 300 yards; at this distance, the 5.56 maxed out at 741 ft-lbs. Thumping long-range power was never the goal of the 5.56, so this is little surprise.

Trajectory

6.5 Grendel

200 Yards

300 Yards

400 Yards

500 Yards

90-grain Varmageddon (Nosler)

0

-8.5

-25

-51.4

100-grain ELD-VT V-Match (Hornady)

0

-8.3

-24.2

-48.9

115-grain TAC-TX BT (Barnes)

0

-9.9

-28.9

-59.1

120-grain Fusion MSR (Federal)

0

-10.1

-30.5

-63.1

130-grain Premier Match (Remington)

0

-10.4

-29.7

-59.8

AVERAGE

0

-9.4

-27.7

-55.5

 

5.56 NATO

200 Yards

300 Yards

400 Yards

500 Yards

55-grain Target & Practice (Winchester)

0

-9

-26.7

-55.3

62-grain FMJ Frontier (Hornady)

0

-7.7

-23.4

-49.7

68-grain BTHP Match Frontier (Hornady)

0

-7.5

-22

-45.4

70-grain TSX-BT (Barnes)

0

-8

-24.2

-51

75-grain BTHP Match (Hornady)

0

-7

-21

-43.4

AVERAGE

0

-7.8

-23.5

-49

The Grendel has reliable downrange power, but if you are looking for the straightest trajectory, if you simply want to hit the target and don’t care how hard it hits, the 5.56 NATO appears to excel.

The differences are not massive, but we see less drop from the classic 5.56. Overall the 6.5 Grendel shows more drop while the 5.56 NATO displays straighter trajectories.

Both 6.5 Grendel and 5.56×45 offer a lot to like for shooters depending upon their needs.

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