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REAL WHEEL GUNS S&W’S THUNDER RANCH DEFENSE .45 WRITTEN BY MIKE “DUKE” VENTURINO

Duke shot the new S&W TRD .45 only in double action. He didn’t dare shoot it single action,
but such a method is possible. Just not when Clint Smith is around.

 

When Smith & Wesson’s Tony Miele and Thunder Ranch’s Director, Clint Smith, got together a few year’s ago, their fertile brains cooked up something special. It was the third revolver introduced in collaboration between Thunder Ranch and Smith & Wesson, but as you will see this one was a departure from those first two Thunder Ranch Revolvers. It is the Thunder Ranch Defense revolver or TRD.

Here’s some background. Back at SHOT Show 2004, Clint, Tony, Roy Huntington and myself had dinner together. It was the first time Clint and I had met Tony, who at that time was Smith & Wesson’s production manager. Naturally we all launched into our ideas about what revolvers Smith & Wesson should be making. Guess what it was? Right! We wanted all steel, fixed sight, wood gripped, big-bore sixguns. Such are traditional Smith & Wesson handguns to shooters of our age.

 

Thunder Ranch Revolver

 

We got them too. By April Tony, Clint, and I shot together at a Thunder Ranch Revolver class in Texas passing around the prototype first Thunder Ranch Revolver. It was a Model 21-4 .44 Special, with 4″ barrel. It went over so well Thunder Ranch and Smith & Wesson did another revolver together in late 2005. This time it was a Model 22-4, which externally was similar to the Model 21-4, but chambered for .45 ACP/.45 Auto-Rim. If anything, it was an even bigger success.

This set the stage for the TRD, which as I said is a departure from tradition. Clint referred to this new revolver as “new age.” Instead of steel, its N-frame is scandium, while its cylinder is blackened stainless steel. Instead of fixed sights, it has adjustable ones, and the grips are rubber. In fact about the only things “traditional” about it are the 4″ barrel and caliber.

Again, it is chambered for .45 ACP/.45 Auto-Rim. I asked Clint why did you pick the .45 ACP/.45 Auto-Rim again? He said, “Because the revolver is versatile ammo-wise and allows the 1911 people to also have a viable revolver in a matching caliber. Also, with .45 ACP/.45 Auto-Rim someone has the option of 1/2-moon clips or full-moon clips with .45 ACP or speed loaders with .45 Auto-Rim.” I’m also happy to note the .45 Auto-Rim isn’t just an option for hand-loaders. The South Dakota-based firm Black Hills Ammunition is again offering .45 Auto-Rim factory loads.

 

The new S&W TRD .45 can handle .45 ACP ammunition (above) in either full or 1/2-moon clips
and .45 Auto Rim in speed loaders. One benefit of a revolver chambered for .45 ACP (below)
is the car-tridges can be held in 1/2 or full-moon clips for a truly flexible reload.

Sight Thoughts

 

When I got to Oregon, the first thing Clint and Tony showed me was the sample TRD revolver. When I saw it carried adjustable sights, I had to ask why. After all Clint had wanted the earlier Model 21-4 and 22-4 precisely because they were fixed-sight revolvers, hence nearly impossible to knock askew once sighted in. And that’s a good thing for a defensive handgun. But, Clint said experience showed him adjustable sights were logical for a .45 ACP/.45 Auto-Rim revolver because of the wide range of bullet weights available.

For instance, .44 Special factory load bullet weights generally run from 200 to 250 grains. In comparison .45 ACP/.45 Auto-Rim now have factory load bullet weights from 155 grains to 255 grains. The lighter load is the TTI brand of “green” or lead-less factory ammo in .45 ACP. The heavier bullet is the lead 255-grain SWC carried in Black Hills new .45 Auto-Rim loading. Depending on exact barrel length, velocity, and/or range the points of impact between 155-and 255-grain bullets can be a foot or more. Hence adjustable sights are more practical.

The new TRD revolver’s rear sight was perfectly familiar to me, being the standard S&W micrometer style inlet into the topstrap and adjustable for both windage and elevation by means of a small screwdriver. I’ve used hundreds of S&W revolvers so equipped. However, the front sight got my attention. It had a gold bead, but the interesting thing is that its “quick detachable.” Pulling it back against spring pressure and then lifting it upwards brings it right out of its slot. As shipped from the factory these new TRD revolvers will have a gold bead with a sight height of .250″. However, the buyer can order other sight blades to suit his individual needs such as higher, shorter, or the Hi-Viz colored types S&W has been marketing for awhile. I thought it was a nifty option, all the while feeling perfectly happy with the original gold bead while shooting of several hundred rounds through the TRD during my visit.

 

A Little More Custom

 

In the above paragraph I mentioned “shipped from the factory.” Let’s be clear on one point — these Smith & Wesson TRD revolvers were actually coming from their Performance Center. Coming out of the PC, the revolver has a few options standard factory revolvers don’t have. One is the hammer and trigger are forged and machined parts and not the MIM (machine injected molding) parts as found on factory issue Smith & Wesson revolvers nowadays. They are color case hardened. Second, the hammer has a shape referred to as a “tear-drop” which is slightly different from the rectangular one on standard revolvers. Third, the trigger comes with an overtravel stop. And finally, the cylinder’s crane has an extra lock-up in the form of a ball detent, in addition to the standard lock-up of the ejector rod fore and aft. That third lock, while not exactly like those found on the old “Triplelocks” (Hand Ejector, 1st Model), serves the same purpose.

All us “old revolver guys” like wood grips on our handguns, or perhaps even grips made of some exotic material like ivory or bone. Therefore, I was a bit surprised the TRD has rubber, finger-groove grips. Again I asked Clint why. He said, “Many revolver people like custom grips of their choosing, so the rubber works well, yet is cost effective in case the owner wants to ditch them. In fairness, though, the rubber is also pretty tough stuff for everyday carry or field work.”

Personally speaking, I’ve had a deep aversion to rubber grips all my life. That is until encountering Smith & Wesson’s new breed of AirLite revolvers. These ultra light revolvers are great for carrying but firing them with wood stocks will tear up your hands in short order. Yet, the rubber grips make them perfectly usable. The TRD, with its scandium frame and shrouded barrel weighs a mere 31 ounces. We fired hundreds of rounds through it while I was at Thunder Ranch, and those grips made it perfectly pleasant to shoot. So once more, a departure from “tradition” was well thought out.

 

The new Smith & Wesson TRD .45 comes with a Picatinny rail beneath the
4″ barrel (above). It is removable if lights aren’t your thing.

You never can predict how you might have to engage an enemy, so Clint practices being able
to shoot from many positions. Here, he puts the new TRD .45 through its paces from such
unorthodox positions as this. It functioned flawlessly for 2,000 rounds.

Clint shooting the new Smith & Wesson Thunder Ranch Defense (TRD) revolver .45 ACP
double-action at a steel plate 45-yards away. Hits were easy.

New Tradition

 

But this next item is perhaps the most non-traditional of all. It’s a Picatinny style light rail mounted beneath the barrel. I have no experience with handgun-mounted lights, so again Clint had to be referenced as to why he thought it a good idea. Here’s what he said, “The light rail is there because so much of what happens confrontation-wise is in an altered light environment. The idea is to carry the TRD for daily use without the light, and then when you get home mount the light. An option would be to have the light with you and then mount it when needed, such as a cop might have to do when entering a dark building.” Also, it should be mentioned the Picatinny-style light rail can be dismounted from the barrel, in case the owner feels no need for it at all.

Now at this point in the usual sort of gun test we would tell about the groups it fired on paper from sandbag or machine rest. That we didn’t do. What’s the point?

Every single one of these new S&W revolvers we have “test fired” the last few years have been extremely accurate. So instead we had a lot of fun shooting steel. In fact while I was there in Oregon the number of rounds put through that sample TRD passed 2,000 and none of them were fired at paper targets. Clint has a steel falling plate range set up for use at dis-tances from seven to 25 yards. Also on the hill above the plates are larger plates 12″ wide and 18″ tall set at 45 and 65 yards.

Right off the bat when it was my turn to shoot the TRD the first time, I reached up to cock the hammer and fire it single action. After all why did God give me thumbs if he didn’t want me to use them? A ton of bricks might as well have fallen on me. Clint said, “It’s a double-action revolver! Shoot it double action!” I know better than to argue with him, and besides he’s been trying to teach me proficiency in double action shooting for several years.

It didn’t surprise me I was able to hit those falling plates at ranges from seven to 10 yards. What did surprise me was we were all hitting them at 15 to 20 yards, and it astounded me that all three of us were regularly hitting those 45-and 65-yard distant plates shooting double action. The double-action trigger pull on the TRD revolver was just plain smooth, yet the hammer fall was strong enough it never failed to set off a primer.

 

Besides the vast amount of .45 ACP loads available, both Cor-Bon and Black Hills
Ammunition are now making .45 Auto-Rim factory loads once more.

Each Thunder Ranch Defense revolver has the Thunder Ranch logo etched into its frame.

Ammo Choices

 

Not only did we fire .45 ACP Remington 230-grain FMJ factory loads and TTI 155-grain lead-less .45 ACP factory loads, but also tried Cor-Bon’s new 230-grain FMJ Auto Rim load and Black Hills new 255-grain SWC Auto Rim load. All shot just fine albeit with some sight changes to com-pensate for differing bullet weights. (I never did fire the thing single action, so I have no idea as to how its SA trigger felt. I wasn’t about to let Clint catch me thumb-cocking it again!)

At the end, I had to ask Clint again; “Why the great departure from the first two Smith & Wesson and Thunder Ranch collaborations?” He said, “This TRD is a sort of update or new age version of the defensive revolver. The Models 21/22 were an attempt on my part to bring back the old guns so they could be carried and shot, maybe by people who couldn’t find or afford original Model 21s and 22s.”

Milt Sparks, the famous Idaho holster maker, has both inside and out-side the pants holsters for the TRD and its light rail.

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The NEW Savage 1911 – Full Review by JUSTIN OPINION

The Savage Arms Model 1907 may not be familiar to many younger firearms enthusiasts, but it was a significant achievement in many ways. One such noteworthy innovation was the introduction of a ‘double-stack’ magazine design to increase capacity. Most famously, however, the Model 1907 took second place in the U.S. military trials to adopt a semi-auto service pistol. Like most runners-up, it faded into the margins of history behind the success of its competitor – the Model 1911 offered by Colt. So, it is not surprising that the 1911 has been absent from the lineup of Savage handguns. Until now.

New for 2023, and likely available by the time you read this, there is now a 1911 built by Savage Arms. And it’s a good one!

Savage has always been known for its top-quality hunting and target rifles more than handguns. My father was a master gunsmith, and Savage was one of his favorite brand names. He had a way of putting things simply and would say, “they don’t make junk”. From a man who called it like he saw it – that was high praise. After spending some time with this Savage 1911 on the workbench and at the range, I can tell you that it is every bit a Savage.

SPECS & FEATURES

The Savage 1911 is built on the traditional ‘government model’ platform, but with many upgrades and improvements. It is of course a full-sized 5” pistol and is offered in both .45ACP and 9mm. The frame and slide are both forged stainless steel, and the barrel is machined from stainless steel billet. In addition to the satin stainless-steel finish, it is also available in a full black Melonite finish or a two-tone. Each of these is offered either with or without a 1913 picatinny accessory rail. The exterior is finished off with a pair of VZ G10 grip panels, Novak low-mount sights, and ambidextrous manual safety. For this review, I was sent the stainless-steel model without rail.

The list of features and extras goes beyond the obvious though. I had the pistol before I saw any printed specs, and was surprised when I field-stripped it to find a dual recoil spring system inside. The two springs sit over a traditional short guide rod and do an excellent job of managing the recoil. During my range work I noticed a “flatter than usual” recoil impulse from the gun.

The Novak sights on the gun I tested are the standard Lo-Mount variety with some elevation adjustment available on the rear sight. Windage can be adjusted by drifting the sight in its dovetail mount. The versions of the pistol with a rail and/or two-tone finish get an upgraded set of Novak sights that include a tritium bar in the adjustable rear sight and tritium yellow dot front sight. The front sight on the standard sights is a white dot.

You won’t get far into a conversation with any aficionado of the model 1911 before the question “how’s the trigger?” is asked. The Savage 1911 has one of the best triggers I’ve tested on a production government-patterned pistol. With a very short initial take-up (guessing around 1/16” or so) the trigger breaks very clean and crisp – but most noteworthy is that it’s extremely consistent and light. I measured the pull several times with my Lyman digital trigger gauge and averaged 3 lbs., 9 oz., with the deviation being barely over an ounce in either direction at the most. I can’t feel a single molecule of grit, nor any perceivable over-travel. This gun has a bonafide competition-grade trigger in it.

Extra attention to detail is evident in just about every category. I found the fit and blending of the parts to be especially impressive. I have studied under the great Bob Marvel (that story can be found in the archives here at GunsAmerica Digest) and I have a deep appreciation for the planning and work necessary to achieve this. I first noticed it when observing the beautiful fit of the barrel and barrel bushing as well as the recoil spring cap. Not only is it a visually seamless fit – but the tip of my finger can feel no changes in the elevation of these parts. This is an extraordinary example of tight tolerance and cannot be overstated.

The barrel itself has a very nice target crown – another extra. After I noticed this impressive muzzle work, I just had to test one of my personal favorite quality items for the 1911. Bob Marvel taught me to blend the grip safety to the frame in such a way that when fully depressed, it is perfectly flush with the backstrap of the gun. Doing that takes extremely well-made parts with very low tolerances and it takes time and effort in assembly, and usually some hand blending. On a production 1911 no one gets that right. No one. Except for Savage. They nailed it!

The top strap of the slide has been nicely ornamented to both reduce glare and add some visual interest to the pistol. The same pattern adorns the backstrap to add grip for the shooter, while the front strap is smooth. The previously mentioned G10 grips provide excellent friction to keep the gun still in your hand. Finally, a skeletonized and bobbed hammer, deep front and rear slide serrations, and a beveled magazine well help finish things off.

SHOOTING THE SAVAGE 1911

When it comes to a 1911 clone, there is no shortage of comparison models, so how it performs at the range can make or break the success of the gun far more than the pretty extras it might have. Especially if this is a handgun that might be employed for personal or home defense. Winners are not chosen by who is lying face down with the prettiest gun in their hand.

On that note, it is clear that Savage set out to build a shooter – and I found it to be exactly that. Hundreds of rounds of ammo met with one single malfunction – due to a bad primer in a batch of “bulk buy” ammunition. The two eight-round mags fed everything up the pipe perfectly and extraction and ejections were flawless. It’s also worth noting that Savage opened up the ejection port a bit on this gun, which helps ensure that empty cases – or even full live rounds easily clear the gun.

ERGONOMICS AND FIELD TESTING

Discussing the ergonomics of a century-old design would be pointless, but there are a lot of ways to skin this old cat that can either make it more or less suited to individual taste. The trigger guard is not undercut and the front strap of the grip is smooth – offering a very purist feel for those who prefer that. The backstrap texture combined with the G10 grip panels seems quite sufficient – but I have to confess that I wore shooting gloves most of the time at the range because it was freezing cold. The sights were quite sufficient and helped me keep my hits where I wanted them.

To measure just how well I could shoot the Savage 1911, I set up a target at 20 yards and used my CTK pistol rest to print 4 groups of five shots each. In the results table, I show the size of the five-shot group and then call out the best three. I do this because I use a rest – not a vice, and I can still be a factor. It helps reduce human error. All said – the groups were all good and I was pleased with their consistency.

JUST MY OPINION

The model 1911 is a wonder of sustainability in an often-fickle marketplace. Every year, dozens of new handgun models are introduced to consumers, each trying to distinguish itself based on some new innovation or improved characteristic – sometimes simply an aesthetic change. Meanwhile, sales of 1911’s march steadily on, with new entrants to the market each year.

The 1911 is to me, a completely separate category from all other handguns, with all of the above criteria coming to play with each one brought to market. I’ve even heard someone ask, in response to a friend announcing plans to buy a new handgun – “Are you getting a 1911, or something else?”. At the risk of making a ridiculous over-simplification, I think the handgun industry can be boiled down to that. 1911s and ‘something else’.

Savage Arms is bringing its own version of the 1911 to us now, and after spending some quality time both at the range in live fire and at the bench in careful examination – I am very impressed. It is mostly a very purist-oriented pistol (with or without the non-purist rail) but with some extremely nice features baked in, and the critical elements done to perfection. With MSRP ranging from $1,350 to $1,500 Savage is targeting the ‘above-entry-level’ buyer. Is the value here to please that market segment? Tight lockup, light and crisp trigger, good sights, and an accurate barrel – I think there is a good argument that it is, but I would expect street values to be a bit lower. It may have taken Savage over a century to make a copy of the gun that once beat it in the military trials – but they have made a much better version!