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The Weaver Stance: Its Origins & Use by Wiley Clapp

The Weaver Stance: Its Origins & Use
Published in 1930, the book carries the single-word title of Shooting. On page 363 is a photograph of the author, one J. H. FitzGerald, shooting a large Colt revolverwith two hands.
Fitz was a famous handgunner of the ’20s and ’30s. A great deal of the book is about the shooters of the day and their techniques. This was a time when bullseye shooting was nearly universal. Every other picture shows a shooter with his pistol in one hand, since the rules of bullseye games required it. Therefore, the book is actually up-to-date and accuratefor 1930.
But Fitz was a lifetime cop and instructor. He wanted to include some material for working pistoleros of the between-the-wars era and it’s there, along with some draw-from-the holster and hand-to-hand stuff that was right on point. Chapter 50, “Shooting Two-handed” had the mentioned picture and two paragraphs of advice.
Fitz advised the reader that chasing a fleeing felon might get a policeman breathing hard and a two-handed hold would increase his stability if a pistol shot became necessary. He is in that pictureback straight, head up, gun arm (right) straight, support arm (left) bent at the elbow.
He has a high grip on the gun in his right hand and the left-hand fingers are wrapped around the right. Even more important, his right foot is well behind his left. In other words, he’s in the Weaver stance, though it wasn’t called that at the time, of course.

He’s in the Weaver stance because it is the most natural and logical way to shoot a handgun when the one-hand stuff is not mandatory. Shooters just fall into this position when they are allowed to use the other arm and hand, rather than stick it in a left side pocket or in the waistband.
As far as requiring a one-hand grip, it’s a cultural matter. I have long believed that using a single hand is an outgrowth of Civil War tactics, where the repeating revolver was a decisive weapon but couldn’t be helped by a left hand. That hand was working the reins of a horse.
Out of habit and possibly a sense of propriety, we stayed with one hand for nearly everything having to do with a handgun. That’s no indictment of any shooting sport that requires it, as there is much to be learned from the pure marksmanship of the bullseye game. Butsince the handgun could be fired with a single handit was improperly concluded that it should be.
In the period immediately after WWII, more realistic combat shooting training came into being. There were many variations of a sort of combat-crouch position. Police service training evolved into the PPC course. This system grew popular, because multiple shooters could run the course together, and it did not demand a lot of space.
Although it was most commonly fired from a crouch and one-handed, the rules were loose enough to permit the shooter to vary his stance and use two hands. At the same time, Jeff Cooper and a growing band of common-sense pistoleros in southern California began to experiment with completely unrestricted combat shooting.

Much of it was close-range stuff and the trend was to draw fast and shoot quickwith one hand. Jack Weaver, a Los Angeles County deputy sheriff, started drawing his S&W revolver, raising it to eye level and shooting with two hands. Almost immediately, he started beating the daylights out of just about everybody else. They all started using it, and the rest is history.
Because it was so successful and so identified with the first guy to use it in these first competitions, the technique was acclaimed as the “Weaver Stance.” It was the evolved doctrine when Cooper opened the first combat shooting school at Gunsite Ranch in the late ’70s. Hundreds of thousands of civilian, military and police handgunners have been trained in the technique.
But combat shooting has evolved to the point where there are now several kinds of shooting competitions that purport to be combat-oriented. There is nothing at all wrong with making a competition out of a fighting skill. Indeed, it has happened for centuriesboxing, wrestling, fencing, judo, etc.
There, we began to see some variations on stances used in two-handed shooting. Usually, it was some form of Isosceles and often returned to a sort of semi-crouch. There are many top-tier action shooters using some variation of this. I cannot criticize these stances, because those competitors are shooting very well indeed.

Ed Stock instructing a student at Gunsite Academy.

I went to Gunsite Academy for the first time in 1993 and got the Modern Technique in its purest form from legendary rangemaster Ed Stock. He is a forceful instructor, and I had years of shooting experience behind me. But I learned more about handgun work in that week than I had ever previously known. A great deal of it was the utility of the Weaver Stance.
It is a sound platform from which to deliver accurate shots at any rangelong or short. With practice, it is also quick to assume, as well as to turn from when targets appear at different angles. Even more, it is great when the handgun of choice is an arm of more than adequate powerand therefore, recoil. All of these virtues remain as constant today as when Cooper and his crew developed the doctrine years past.
The Weaver still works.

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A Savage MODEL 99 COMES W/ SCOPE in caliber .300 Savage

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A Colt Bisely Manufactured 1903 in caliber .38-40 Winchester

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What I call one serious Gun to take to a gun fight – The S&W Mod 25-2 (.45 ACP a guaranteed man stopper of a round)

One could do a whole lot worst then to own one of these fine revolvers made by S&W before they went into decline- Grumpy

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Gunmen in Mexico Steal 7 Million Ammunition Rounds Headed to Texas

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By ILDEFONSO ORTIZ and BRANDON DARBY

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A group of gunmen in Central Mexico hijacked two tractor-trailers containing more than seven million rounds of ammunition headed to Texas. Mexican authorities recovered the two trucks without the ammo-loaded trailers following a large-scale search operation.

The incident took place this week in the state of Guanajuato. Authorities first learned of the theft when representatives from Tecnos Industries, who manufactures Aguila Ammunitions, contacted federal authorities after losing contact and GPS information from their two vehicles and security detail, Mexico’s Proceso magazine reported.

Authorities believe a group of gunmen managed to stop the vehicles and forced the drivers and security detail to get out while they drove away with the cargo. The gunmen left the trucks several miles north of the scene of the robbery.

According to court documents from the case, the majority of the rounds were .22 caliber. The shipment also included pallets of .38 Super, .40, and .45 caliber ammo, as well as various sizes and types of shotgun shells.

The robbery comes at a time when Guanajuato and other once-peaceful states in Central Mexico have seen a dramatic spike in violence as rival drug cartels fight for control of drug routes, local drug sales, and the control of the lucrative underground fuel market. The escalating violence in the area also led to an ongoing spike in highway robberies, particularly targeting commercial shipments.

Ildefonso Ortiz is an award-winning journalist with Breitbart Texas. He co-founded Breitbart Texas’ Cartel Chronicles project with Brandon Darby and senior Breitbart management. You can follow him on Twitter and on Facebook. He can be contacted at Iortiz@breitbart.com

Brandon Darby is the managing director and editor-in-chief of Breitbart Texas. He co-founded Breitbart Texas’ Cartel Chronicles project with Ildefonso Ortiz and senior Breitbart management. Follow him on Twitter and Facebook. He can be contacted at bdarby@breitbart.co

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Three weeks until Tennesseans can carry without a permit TOSIN FAKILE

“Ammo prices have gone up substantially, but they’ve dropped a bit,” Allen said. “Thousand rounds of 9mm ammo was about $240 before Covid and during Covid it got to $800 and people were still buying it it has since dropped here at our place to $500 for a thousand rounds. And its kind of hard to get nowadays,” he added.

Allen who oversees training at Royal Range says he has seen one major trend; more women buying guns.

‘We’ve seen a lot of; a substantial increase in ladies coming here to buy guns,” Allen said. “We are seeing that increase quite a bit, whether its women self-defense , first time gun owners,” he added.

Allen adds that even though the law takes effect in July, it doesn’t require in- person or online course anymore. Royal Range is putting a course in place to teach people the law when the permitless carry goes into effect.

“We’re all for a person defending themselves. They need to know the law, because if you don’t know the law, you will get in so much trouble. If I pull it out at the wrong time, that’s called aggravated assault which is felony,” Allen said.

He also adds another trend they’ve noticed recently is more people coming to the gun range looking for training.

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A Smith & Wesson 22S .22LR SEMI-AUTO PISTOL in caliber .22 LR

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