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How a Few Lucky Civil War Soldiers Started Glowing and Healed Faster

Imagine you are a Civil War soldier with a mid-19th-century layman’s understanding of medicine. Good news: you helped drive the Confederates back and survived the Battle of Shiloh. Bad news: you’re wounded, and you’ve been waiting for a medic for two days on a rainy battlefield. Worse news: to your horror, that wound has started to … glow. Never mind that archaic understanding of medicine — we’re still freaked out 156 years later.

In the Glow of an Angel

The Battle of Shiloh was one of the first major battles of the American Civil War, and one of the first bloodbaths as well. Although the Union was victorious, both sides suffered heavy losses, and neither was truly prepared for the scope of the conflict. All told, the Battle of Shiloh left more than 3,000 dead and 16,000 wounded, and like many Civil War battles, the deadliest risk came after the bullets stopped flying and the wounds started festering. To make matters worse, the wounded that were unable to carry themselves from the fray were left to suffer for two days in the mud and the rain before medical help (such as it was at the time) arrived. That can’t be good for preventing an infection. Fortunately, those soldiers had angels looking out for them.

At least, that’s what it looked like. In an astonishing, and frankly spooky, turn of events, as night fell, many of those wounded soldiers began to see a strange glow emanating from their wounds.
They called it “Angel’s Glow” and it lived up to its nickname. When they were eventually recovered and moved to the field hospital, the soldiers whose wounds had been so blessed ended up recovering better and faster, with cleaner wounds and a better survival rate than the un-glowing.
This really would sound downright impossible if it weren’t for the fact that it’s so well documented.

When P. Luminescens Comes Marching Home

In 2001, an answer finally came to the supernatural mystery, and it came from an unlikely source: a 17-year-old high school student. Bill Martin was visiting the battlefield of Shiloh with his mother Phyllis Martin, a microbiologist at the USDA Agricultural Research Service. Hearing the story of the glowing soldiers, he thought about another story his mother had told him: the story of the bioluminescent bacteria Photorhabdus luminescens, which glows with a pale blue light. He and his friend John Curtis decided to conduct an experiment to find out if that little critter could be the culprit.
The students found that P. luminescens would indeed have been well-suited to surviving in the mud at Shiloh, but that the inside of the human body was probably too hot. However, they realized that since the soldiers would have been experiencing the cool Tennessee nights from the bottom of a mud puddle in the pouring rain, they may well have been experiencing hypothermia, which would lower their temperatures enough for the bacteria to thrive.
P. luminescens normally survives by hitching a ride on a parasitic nematode and chowing down on the insects that nematode infects. It’s a complicated and somewhat nauseating life cycle that starts up again by creating a glowing insect corpse that attracts more insects to infect. A crucial part of that process is when P. luminescens makes room for itself and for its parasitic host by cleaning up all of the other bacteria in its way. If this glowing duo happened to find its way into a human wound instead of the insects it normally hunts, it’d clean that wound right up. And since it’s not especially infectious to humans (although it certainly can be), P. luminescens is usually no match for our immune systems. There you have it: we wouldn’t recommend introducing a new parasite to fight your infections today, but as Civil War medicine goes, it’s certainly preferable to a field amputation.
There might not be any images of the glowing soldiers on that bizarre battlefield, but the American Civil War is still one of the first wars to be documented with the exactness of photography. Flip through “The Civil War: A Visual History” (put out by the Smithsonian) to see exactly what the brave soldiers of the Union went through. We handpick reading recommendations we think you may like. If you choose to make a purchase through that link, Curiosity will get a share of the sale.
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The M1870 Italian Vetterli Rifle

Sorry Guys but this is one of the Ugliest Rifles that I have ever seen! Which is really surprising to me. As The Italians almost always led the way in Style. Go figure!Italian Vetterli Carcano Model 1870/87/16, Non-Import, Blue 33 1/2” - Military Bolt Action Rifle MFD 1887 Antique No FFL - Picture 5

Italian Vetterli Carcano Model 1870/87/16, Non-Import, Blue 33 1/2” - Military Bolt Action Rifle MFD 1887 Antique No FFL - Picture 7
Italian Vetterli Carcano Model 1870/87/16, Non-Import, Blue 33 1/2” - Military Bolt Action Rifle MFD 1887 Antique No FFL - Picture 8
Italian Vetterli Carcano Model 1870/87/16, Non-Import, Blue 33 1/2” - Military Bolt Action Rifle MFD 1887 Antique No FFL - Picture 9
Here below is some more information about this critter!

 

Vetterli Model 1870
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Vetterli-Vitali rifle M1870/87
Type Bolt-action rifle
Place of origin  Kingdom of Italy
Service history
In service 1870-1941 (at least)
Used by Kingdom of Italy
Wars First Italo-Ethiopian War
Boxer Rebellion
World War I
Second Italo-Ethiopian War
Spanish Civil War
Production history
Variants M1870/87 and M1870/87/15
Specifications
Weight M1870/87: 10.19 lb (4.62 kg)
M1870/87/15: 10.19 lb (4.62 kg)
Length 52.95 in (134.5 cm)
Barrel length 33.85 in (86.0 cm)

Cartridge M1870/87: 10.4×47mmR
M1870/87/15: 6.5×52mm Carcano
Action Bolt-action
Muzzle velocity M1870/87: 1,410 ft/s (430 m/s)
M1870/87/15: 2,395 ft/s (730 m/s)
Effective firing range M1870/87: 2,000 m (2,200 yd)
M1870/87/15: 2,000 m (2,200 yd)
Feed system M1870: single shot
M1870/87: 4 round magazine
M1870/87/15: 6 round magazine

The M1870 Vetterli was the Italian service rifle from 1870-1887, when it was gradually replaced with the M1870/87 Italian Vetterli-Vitali variant. The M1870 was a single-shot bolt action rifle chambered for the 10.4mm Vetterli centrefire cartridge, at first loaded with black powder and later with smokeless powder. The M1870 was based upon the M1869 Swiss Vetterli but simplified for economy.

M1870/87[edit]

  • 10.4mm Fucile di Fanteria, Modello 1870/87 Vetterli-Vitali

In 1887 (until 1896), the Italian Army began converting the M1870 to a four-shot repeating rifle, based on the system designed by Italian artillery captain, G. Vitali. This conversion added a box magazine fed from a Swiss-style fabricated steel and wood stripper clip holding four cartridges, in the same caliber (10.4x47R mm) as before. The clip is pressed into the magazine, until the last round catches under the Cartridge retainer, and then the clip is withdrawn using the “pull string” in the top wooden frame of the clip. Clips of cartridges were supplied in a soldered sheet steel box, holding six clips.
The conversion to the Vitali magazine was done on the long rifle, the TS (special troops musketoon) and possibly some of the Carabinieri carbines; No Vitali conversions were done to the Moschetto da Cavalleria for metropolitan Italian troops. In 1888, the Fondo Coloniale (Eritrea) requested 500 Vitali-converted Vetterli cavalry carbines for the Eritrean Native Cavalry (“spahi“—Swahili for “horse-soldier”). There are currently five known examples still in existence ( one in Australia, two in the US, two in Italy). Collectors refer to it as the M1870/88 V.V.Eritrean cav carbine. The Regio Esercito (Royal Army) Cavalry units maintained the M1870 single shot Moschetto da cavalleria until replaced by the M1891 Moschetto da cavalleria, in 1893.
The conversion is indicted by a cartouche “Artig. Fab. D’armi Terni 1888” (dates vary), on the butt stock. The center of the cartouche displays a Crest of Savoy and the word, Riparazione (Italian for repair) is directly below the cartouche. Shortages of small arms appeared from the very beginning of Italy’s entrance into World War I on the side of the Allies.
As more of the population mobilized for the first total war in European history, the supply of modern small arms fell short before the end of 1915 and a large number of obsolete Modello 1870/87 Vetterli-Vital were issued to newly formed regiments that were not expected to be in combat, however, troops carried these antiquated rifles into battle on several occasions.
As well, in 1916, Italy sent a large number of Vetterli-Vitali rifles to Russia; ammunition and components were contracted for by Britain to the Remington Armory. These “tsarist” rifles eventually ended up in Republican hands in the Spanish Civil War, as the Soviet Union emptied its depots of all the old black powder and early smokeless rifles it had inherited after the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917.

M1870/87/15[edit]

During World War I, many M1870/87 rifles were converted to share the same 6.5mm smokeless powder round as the primary service rifle, the Carcano, by adding a 6.5mm barrel lining and a modified M91 Carcano magazine. The barrel sleeving was called the “Salerno method”; The bolt face was also machined to accept the smaller diameter 6.5 mm cartridge head, and the firing pin shortened. These conversions were used for rear echelon troops (guards, training, etc.) and were rarely, if at all, fired with standard 6.5 mm military ball ammunition. After WWI, many of these rifles were assigned to the colonies of Tripolitania, Fezzan and Cyrenaica (Libya) and also to Eritrea and Somalia, again, as rarely-fired training rifles. These rifles were used again in the Second Italo-Ethiopian War, mostly by native African soldiers.[1]
It is considered by knowledgeable collectors[who?] that due to the rifle’s age and general condition (manufactured in 1870-1890s) and converted twice (1887-90s and again 1915-16), that the black powder technology of the Vetterli design is not suitable for repeated use (i.e. intense combat use) with normal Italian ball ammunition of 6.5 mm, or its present-day commercial equivalent. Even back in the 1920s, anecdotal accounts of Salerno sleeves loosening under “hot” fire (they were soft-soldered in place) and subsequent “blow-by” experience since the 1950s appearance of these rifles as surplus has led to safety concerns.[2]

Comparison with contemporary rifles[edit]

Comparison of 1880s rifles[3]
Calibre System Country Velocity Height of trajectory Ammunition
Muzzle 500 yd (460 m) 1,000 yd (910 m) 1,500 yd (1,400 m) 2,000 yd (1,800 m) 500 yd (460 m) 1,000 yd (910 m) 1,500 yd (1,400 m) 2,000 yd (1,800 m) Propellant Bullet
.433 in (11.0 mm) Werndl–Holub rifle Austria-Hungary 1,439 ft/s (439 m/s) 854 ft/s (260 m/s) 620 ft/s (190 m/s) 449 ft/s (137 m/s) 328 ft/s (100 m/s) 8.252 ft (2.515 m) 49.41 ft (15.06 m) 162.6 ft (49.6 m) 426.0 ft (129.8 m) 77 gr (5.0 g) 370 gr (24 g)
.45 in (11.43 mm) Martini–Henry United Kingdom 1,315 ft/s (401 m/s) 869 ft/s (265 m/s) 664 ft/s (202 m/s) 508 ft/s (155 m/s) 389 ft/s (119 m/s) 9.594 ft (2.924 m) 47.90 ft (14.60 m) 147.1 ft (44.8 m) 357.85 ft (109.07 m) 85 gr (5.5 g) 480 gr (31 g)
.433 in (11.0 mm) Fusil Gras mle 1874 France 1,489 ft/s (454 m/s) 878 ft/s (268 m/s) 643 ft/s (196 m/s) 471 ft/s (144 m/s) 348 ft/s (106 m/s) 7.769 ft (2.368 m) 46.6 ft (14.2 m) 151.8 ft (46.3 m) 389.9 ft (118.8 m) 80 gr (5.2 g) 386 gr (25.0 g)
.433 in (11.0 mm) Mauser Model 1871 Germany 1,430 ft/s (440 m/s) 859 ft/s (262 m/s) 629 ft/s (192 m/s) 459 ft/s (140 m/s) 388 ft/s (118 m/s) 8.249 ft (2.514 m) 48.68 ft (14.84 m) 159.2 ft (48.5 m) 411.1 ft (125.3 m) 75 gr (4.9 g) 380 gr (25 g)
.408 in (10.4 mm) M1870 Italian Vetterli Italy 1,430 ft/s (440 m/s) 835 ft/s (255 m/s) 595 ft/s (181 m/s) 422 ft/s (129 m/s) 304 ft/s (93 m/s) 8.527 ft (2.599 m) 52.17 ft (15.90 m) 176.3 ft (53.7 m) 469.9 ft (143.2 m) 62 gr (4.0 g) 310 gr (20 g)
.397 in (10.08 mm) Jarmann M1884 Norway and Sweden 1,536 ft/s (468 m/s) 908 ft/s (277 m/s) 675 ft/s (206 m/s) 504 ft/s (154 m/s) 377 ft/s (115 m/s) 7.235 ft (2.205 m) 42.97 ft (13.10 m) 137.6 ft (41.9 m) 348.5 ft (106.2 m) 77 gr (5.0 g) 337 gr (21.8 g)
.42 in (10.67 mm) Berdan rifle Russia 1,444 ft/s (440 m/s) 873 ft/s (266 m/s) 645 ft/s (197 m/s) 476 ft/s (145 m/s) 353 ft/s (108 m/s) 7.995 ft (2.437 m) 47.01 ft (14.33 m) 151.7 ft (46.2 m) 388.7 ft (118.5 m) 77 gr (5.0 g) 370 gr (24 g)
.45 in (11.43 mm) Springfield model 1884 United States 1,301 ft/s (397 m/s) 875 ft/s (267 m/s) 676 ft/s (206 m/s) 523 ft/s (159 m/s) 404 ft/s (123 m/s) 8.574 ft (2.613 m) 46.88 ft (14.29 m) 142.3 ft (43.4 m) 343.0 ft (104.5 m) 70 gr (4.5 g) 500 gr (32 g)
.40 in (10.16 mm) Enfield-Martini United Kingdom 1,570 ft/s (480 m/s) 947 ft/s (289 m/s) 719 ft/s (219 m/s) 553 ft/s (169 m/s) 424 ft/s (129 m/s) 6.704 ft (2.043 m) 39.00 ft (11.89 m) 122.0 ft (37.2 m) 298.47 ft (90.97 m) 85 gr (5.5 g) 384 gr (24.9 g)

Gallery[edit]

Sources[edit]

For the specifications and the service history of the Italian Vetterli-Vitali rifles. M1870/87 and the M1870/87/15: http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Italian%20Rifles/The%20ITALIAN%20VETTERLI-VITALI%20RIFLES/VETTERLI-VITALI%20M1870%20MOSCHETTO%20CAVALRY%20CARBINE.wps.htm#MODEL_18708715_RIFLEen:First Italo-Ethiopian WarBattaglia_dell’Amba_Alagi (it)Battaglia_di_Adua (it)Vetterli-Vitali_Mod._1870/87 (it)Vetterli-Vitali_Mod._1870/87/15 (it)http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=156589 Italian forces in the Boxer Rebellion.
For amendments and additions (July 2, 2015) Typographical, Vitali clip design and function, Eritrean Cav.Carbine, Salerno method, Safety of Ball 6,5 ammunition: Personal examination and research by Dr. Astrid M.Vallati MD, JD. (DocAV) AV Ballistics Technical and Forensic Services, Brisbane, Australia. Rifles examined: M1870/87 Long Rifle, ex-Tsarist Russia, ex SCW; Moschetto TS M1870/87 AOI marked; Moschetto Cavalleria Eritrea M1870/88: Provenance Confirmed, Bringback to Australia, in 1928, by Surveyor-Gen. of Sudan; Acquired from grandson of same in 1990s, with Certificate of Sudan Service. Fucile M70/87/15 Cal. 6,5mm.

References[edit]

  1. Jump up^ http://candrsenal.com/rifle-italian-vetterli-carcano-m708715/ C&Rsenal
  2. Jump up^ https://gunsmagazine.com/emergency-stopgap/ Guns Magazine
  3. Jump up^ “The New Martini-Enfield Rifle” (PDF). The Engineer. 2 July 1886. p. 16. Retrieved 3 April 2017 – via Grace’s Guide to British Industrial History.

 

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