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Know Where Your Ammo Comes From! Project Pole Bean: How Sneaky Green Berets Blew Up a Few Guns and Frightened an Entire Army by MARK MILLER

In 1968, American troops in Vietnam reported scattered incidents where dead NVA soldiers were found with parts of their exploded rifles protruding from their skulls. Technical Intelligence attributed this to poor metallurgy and bad ammunition. The situation was a little more complicated than it appeared.

The Type 56 rifle could handle 40,000 p.s.i. of chamber pressure. The kinetic disassembly in the picture was caused by firing a modified cartridge which produced 250,000 p.s.i. This blew up the gun and threw the bolt straight back through the top cover.

My uncle Harvey was a Green Beret who served with MAC-V SOG in Vietnam. When I was a kid, I pestered him to tell me about their missions. They would go deep into the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) base areas and tap communications wire, take prisoners and do bomb damage assessment.

My favorite story was how they used to carry in ammunition and put it in NVA storage bunkers. Well, to be accurate, they put it BACK in the bunkers and some other places too.

Military Assistance Command Vietnam’s Studies and Observations Group (SOG) was America’s top-secret special operations task force in the Vietnam War. SOG’s operators worked directly for the Joint Chiefs, executing highly classified and deniable missions in Laos, Cambodia, and North Vietnam. From 1966 to 1968, SOG was commanded by Colonel John K. Singlaub.

Singlaub was an old school unconventional warfare pro. He parachuted behind German lines with the OSS in August 1944 to fight with the French Resistance fighters supporting the D-Day invasion.

After WW2, Singlaub joined the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and worked in Manchuria during the Chinese Civil War. In 1951 he became Deputy Chief of the CIA station in South Korea. Later he ran CIA operations in Manchuria and led troops in the Korean War. He was the perfect guy to run SOG.

SOG teams ran deniable missions into Laos and Cambodia to gather intelligence, wiretap communications, kidnap personnel, ambush convoys, raid supply dumps, plant mines, and generally spread the joys of unconventional warfare across the NVA rear.

SOG recon teams normally consisted of two or three American Green Berets and four to six indigenous soldiers. 

This may not sound as romantic as fighting front line infantry units, but without a secure rear, the bad guys at the front got less food and ammunition. As these operations began to effect NVA operations, several divisions of NVA regulars were put on security missions along the Ho Chi Min trail.

Special NVA units were formed and specific tactics were developed to find and kill SOG teams. Landing zones were watched, trackers and dogs were deployed, and a system of communications established to allow a rapid response to any contact with SOG. While finding the NVA could be a problem for infantry units, they trucked guys in for the SOG teams to mow down.

While skulking around, these teams often encountered ammo caches with millions of rounds.  Being Green Berets, their first inclination was to steal the ammo, but there was just too much of it and it was in very remote areas. Demolition was not feasible as it would only scatter small-arms ammunition, not destroy it.

They could have booby-trapped the caches so that when the NVA picked up a case it would blow up but that would have only impacted a small number of enemy soldiers and the NVA could develop countermeasures. Singlaub came up with a deeper game. He would take some of the ammo, booby trap the individual rounds of ammunition, and give them back.

Like most unconventional tactics, ammunition sabotage was nothing new.  In one well-documented operation, the British slipped exploding rifle cartridges into enemy caches during the Second Matabele War (1896-1897) in what is now Zimbabwe. The British scouts were led by an American, Frederick Russell Burnham, who probably put them up to it.

During World War, the British Special Operations Executive (SOE) and American Office of Strategic Services (OSS) collaborated on Operation Natterjack to plant sabotaged ammunition in the Japanese supply chain. OSS Detachment 101 distributed the ammunition in Burma but little is known about the results.

NVA soldiers with AK-47 rifles.

The SOG ammunition enhancement plan was briefed all the way to the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the Pentagon. On August 30, 1967, they approved the plan and two weeks later, Singlaub watched a CIA technician load a sabotaged 7.62X39 mm cartridge into a bench-mounted AK rifle at Camp Chinen, Okinawa. “It completely blew up the receiver and the bolt was projected backwards,” Singlaub said, “I would imagine into the head of the firer.”

The first cartridges were reloaded with an explosive powder similar to PETN high explosive. The problem was that this white powder looked nothing like Chinese gunpowder, so if the NVA pulled apart an altered round it would be detected. SOG’s technical expert, Ben Baker obtained a substitute explosive that so closely resembled gunpowder that it would pass inspection by anyone but an ordnance expert.

NVA soldiers armed with (from left to right) SKS rifle, RPD light machinegun and AK47. All of these weapons fire the same 7.62X39 ammunition simplifying logistics.

Communist block 7.62X39 weapons such as the SKS, RPD, AK47, and Type 56’s could handle up to 40,000 p.s.i. of chamber pressure. The new powder produced 250,000 p.s.i. enough to blow up the weapon and kill the soldier shooting it.

The secret CIA lab in Okinawa developed more than just rifle ammunition.  Tiger striped fatigues, Time Delayed fuses and Astrolite explosive (developed from NASA rocket fuel) all came from this small group of evil geniuses. Later CIA ordnance experts developed a special fuse for the 82 mm mortar round that would detonate inside the mortar tube. Rounds for 12.7x108mm heavy machine guns soon followed.

After the process was developed in the lab, a specialized ordnance team was formed to modify the ammo. Chinese AK bullets were sealed into steel cases with a thick coat of lacquer where the bullet entered the case. The rounds were pulled apart by hand and the powder was replaced with a high explosive substitute. The bullets were then re-seated and the ammo cans and crates resealed just like the original.

While operating deep in enemy territory on other missions, Green Berets carried booby-trapped rounds and cases of ammunition cases with them and slipped them into the enemy ammunition supply chain whenever possible. If the SOG team encountered an ammo dump, they would plant a case of doctored ammo.

82 mm mortar ammo was not stored as loose rounds, it came in three-round, wooden cases. SOG teams must have been very amused by this concept to volunteer to carry a 28 pound case of mortar rounds in addition to all of their other equipment.

When a SOG team ambushed an enemy patrol, they would load one round into an AK magazine or RPD belt left on enemy bodies with the expectation it would be recovered and re-used. When the gun later exploded, all the evidence of sabotage would be destroyed as the round was fired.

The rigged ammo turned up all over the battlefield, weapons exploded, killing NVA riflemen and sometimes entire mortar crews. Now it was time to initiate SOG’s black psychological operations exploitation plan. The strategic objective was to aggravate the Vietnamese traditional distrust of the Chinese.

At the tactical level, individual soldiers questioned the safety of their Chinese-supplied arms and ammunition. One forged Viet Cong document spread rumors of exploding ammunition while another acknowledged ammo problems resulting from poor Chinese quality control.

The forged document stated, “Only a few thousand such cases have been found thus far,” and concluded, “The People’s Republic of China may have been having some quality control problems but these are being worked out. We think that in the future there will be very little chance of this happening.”

Chinese ammunition was shipped in sealed metal cans with lot numbers stenciled on top. These type cans are still in use. I have seen thousands of these cans all over the Middle East and Afghanistan. American AK shooters who use surplus ammunition are very familiar with “Spam” cans and the big can openers shipped in each wooden case of two cans.

Any NVA soldier, looking at ammunition lot numbers, would see that, due to the length of the supply chain, his ammo had been loaded years earlier. No fresh ammo could possibly reach soldiers fighting in the South for years.  The possibility of compromised ammunition would never disappear.

Military Assistance Command Vietnam (MACV) Technical Intelligence Brief No. 2-68

Military Assistance Command Vietnam (MACV) published a Technical Intelligence Brief titled “Analysis of Damaged Weapons” which was widely circulated to U.S. and South Vietnamese units. The study examined several exploded AKs, concluding they were destroyed by “defective metallurgy resulting in fatigue cracks” or “faulty ammunition, which produced excessive chamber pressure.” Enemy agents passed this information directly back to Hanoi.

American G.I.s were warned against using enemy weapons in public service announcements on Armed Forces Radio and TV which were duly monitored by the Vietnamese. The Army Times warned, “Numerous incidents have caused injury and sometimes death to the operators of enemy weapons.”

NVA 82mm Mortar Team laying in their gun.

Mortars work by using a low pressure charge to throw a bomb with a fragment producing case down range. There is a firing pin in the bottom of the tube which hits a primer in the mortar round when the round is dropped in the tube. A fuse ignites the main charge when it hits the target. The modified fuse blows the main charge inside the mortar tube.

As the rigged ammo spread through the system, Forward Air Controllers observed mortars in Laos, Cambodia, and even in Southern Vietnam blown apart in a star shape pattern. Usually, there were a few 3-4 NVA bodies present.

Planting munitions was risky. On November 30, 1968, a helicopter carrying a SOG team with seven cases of CIA modified 82 mm mortar ammunition was flying 20 miles west of the Khe Sanh Marine base. It was hit by 37 mm anti-aircraft fire and exploded in mid-air with no survivors. The remains of Maj. Samuel Toomey and seven U.S. Army Green Berets were recovered at the crash site 20 years later.

Despite the warnings, American soldiers fired captured arms, and at least one souvenir AK exploded, inflicting serious injuries. To avoid ironic self-injury, SOG stopped using captured ammunition in their own AKs and RPD machine guns and purchased 7.62X39mm ammunition from Finland. This ammo, which SOG’s Green Berets fired at the NVA had been manufactured in a Soviet arsenal in Petrograd. Thank you, Comrades.

To keep it secure, the code name changed through the course of the war. The Project began as Eldest Son, then was changed to Italian Green and ultimately Pole Bean.

In mid-1969, articles in the New York Times and Time magazine compromised the mission. Ordered by the Joint Chiefs to dispose of their remaining stockpiles of ammo, SOG teams rushed to insert multiple missions on the Laotian border to get rid of the stuff before their authority expired.

Even after the enemy was aware of the sabotaged ammunition, the program was psychologically useful. The NVA could never again trust their ammo supply. Radio intercepts confirmed the NVA’s highest levels of command were disturbed by their exploding weapons, Chinese quality control, and sabotage.

Declassified reports reveal that SOG operatives inserted 3,638 rounds of sabotaged 7.62 mm, plus 167 rounds of 12.7 mm and 821 rounds of 82 mm mortar ammunition over the life of the program.

Like all great ideas, this one has been copied. Doctored ammunition of undetermined source is still turning up all over the world. There are reports of a special thermite rifle round that melts in the chamber destroying the gun with no injury to the shooter. This protects innocent users such as American G.I.s while denying weapons to the bad guys.

Who knows if the Americans did this or it was just a happy accident.

Former Green Beret Jack Murphy, author of “Murphy’s Law”, tells the story of attempting to shoot a captured SVD in Iraq. The primer popped and the round got intensely hot melting the chamber and barrel together. No need for fake Technical Intelligence Bulletins to protect friendlies here.

In Iraq and Afghanistan, most of the doctored ammunition is high-explosive 120-millimeter and 82-millimeter mortar rounds. Like SOG rounds, the fuses are altered so they explode inside the mortar tube, destroying the entire mortar system and crew.

The advantage of this particular sort of booby trap is narrow targeting. Unlike rifle ammunition, which might turn up with a homeowner keeping a firearm to protect his family, mortar rounds do not have legitimate home security use.

This 120mm Russian mortar had an unexpected detonation. There are reports the Syrian state military launched an operation secretly passing booby-trapped rounds to insurgent fighters at illegal arms bazaars across the middle east. The New York Times thinks that they got the idea from the US.

While it is gratifying to see the direct results of your efforts, it can be more effective to set the conditions for success and then stand back and watch the enemy do the work for you. The results from Eldest Son, Italian Green and Pole Bean exceeded all expectations.

Green Berets are trained to anticipate the second and third order effects of their actions. These projects killed hundreds, frightened the entire North Vietnamese Army, and sowed distrust between Vietnam and China at the highest levels of government for years to come. In 1979 the two countries went to war.

It pays to know the source of your ammunition and where it has been before it got to you.

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Is the IWI Masada the Sig P320 Killer? Not Quite Yet (But Maybe Soon) by JORDAN MICHAELS

Israel Weapon Industries (IWI) is a legendary gun maker. Its Tavor and Jericho weapons systems are in service in law enforcement and military agencies all over the world, but until last year, IWI had yet to develop a striker-fired handgun.

That changed with the Masada. The polymer-framed, striker-fired, 9mm mimics the best attributes of its plastic-gun predecessors. It’s comfortable and easy to shoot, and it boasts a great trigger and oversized, ambidextrous controls. It’s optics-ready and comes with four plates to accommodate the Trijicon RMR, Vortex Venom, Leupold Delta Point Pro, and Sig Sauer Romeo1. And it comes with three backstraps to customize the grip size.

“With other countries, including NATO allies, running to the striker-fired pistol, we decided to go down this path sooner than later,” Jeremy Gresham, IWI US’s Director of Sales and Marketing, told me via phone. “Rather than fighting it, we needed to be a part of it. Thus, came the Masada pistol as we know it today.”

An optics-ready striker-fired handgun from IWI would be news enough, but the Masada’s serialized trigger assembly is what really turned heads. Much like the uber-popular Sig P320, the IWI’s trigger assembly is what “counts” as the “firearm.” The entire unit can be removed and placed into a different sized frame that can accommodate a different sized slide and barrel (theoretically, at least – more on this below).

Here’s the real kicker: IWI is offering the Masada for the ridiculously low price of $480 MSRP.

Model Number(s) M9ORP10, M9ORP17
Caliber 9mm Parabellum
Action Semi-auto
Operating System Striker Fired
Magazine Type IWI, Steel
Magazine Capacity 10 Round, 17 Round
Barrel Material Polygonal Rifled, Cold Hammer Forged
Barrel Length 4.1″
Overall Length 7.4″
Weight 1.43 lbs.
Rifling 1:10 RH
Sights 3 Dot
MSRP $480.00

IWI?

For most gun nuts, IWI needs no introduction, but it doesn’t have quite the same name recognition in the U.S. as companies like Ruger, Smith & Wesson, or Springfield. IWI began as Israel Military Industries (IMI) in the 1930s, and in the 1950s the company started working directly with the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). IWI is the privatized small arms division of the IMI, and the U.S. based IWI US, Inc. launched in 2013.

IWI works directly with the IDF to, according to the company’s website, “develop small arms based upon the dynamic changes in real-world applications due to the ongoing threat of global terrorism.” IWI’s firearms have been adopted by militaries in Chile, Columbia, Georgia, India, Mexico, Nigeria, Peru, Portugal, Thailand, Ukraine, Vietnam, and many more.

The Masada was designed in Israel by IWI and manufactured in Middletown, PA, for the U.S. market.

When I asked Gresham what makes the Masada unique, he cited IWI’s storied history and rock-solid R&D process.

“We’re not another fly-by-night company. We’re a company that’s over 80 years old,” he said. “We do things right, out of the gate. We don’t release a product until it’s ready. Far too often a company releases product and it needs updates.”

They understand from experience the need for a quality product. IWI’s team in the U.S. is filled with former law enforcement and military, and much of the team in Israel has served in some kind of armed conflict.

“We took in end-user input whether from current employees or users in the field and built a solid weapons system backed by over 80 years of being in business,” Gresham said.

Torture Test

That’s a good start, but how did IWI ensure its product is ready for the real world?

Testing, testing, testing, Gresham said.

The team in Israel doesn’t send a product to the U.S. until it’s passed a 30,000-round torture test. Then, in the U.S., the Masada underwent another 30,000-round torture test. In this test, product engineers ensured that the slide locked back to the rear at the end of each mag, and testers put the slide back into battery by pressing the optic onto a solid barrier. They then tested to ensure that point of impact hadn’t shifted.

“Mounting systems have always been the Achilles heel of slide-ride type optics, and we wanted to make sure ours was solid,” Gresham said.

How’s It Shoot?

That testing paid off. I wasn’t able to conduct a 30,000-round torture test (thanks, COVID), but I did send quite a few hollow-point and round-nosed rounds down range without any malfunctions. I even replicated IWI’s back-into-battery optics test and achieve the same result: no noticeable point of impact shift.

The Masada is a pleasure to shoot. I say that about a lot of guns (guns are fun!), but I really mean it this time. The ergonomics are excellent, and the texturing on the grip is a great balance of grippy and smooth.

I also really liked the oversized and ambidextrous controls. I prefer using the slide release lever rather than gripping the back of the slide to return the gun to battery, so the oversized button was perfect for me. The mag release is also positive and slightly oversized, and the mags drop freely.

Serrations on the front and rear of the slide aid in loading and the rail allows for optics and lasers to be mounted.

Oversized controls, nice grip texturing, and great ergonomics combine to make the Masada a pleasure to shoot.

The sights are no-nonsense three-dot affairs, but this gun screams electronic optics, so you may not ever use them. Unlike many other firearms (here’s looking at you, HK), the Masada comes with all the plates and screws you need to mount any of the compatible optics. I didn’t have any trouble mounting the Leupold Delta Point Pro I used for this review, and the optic held steady during the course of my testing.

The optics plates are polymer, which I realize won’t appeal to some folks. Maybe polymer plates are less reliable than steel, but, again, IWI says they conducted extensive torture testing without an issue, and my experience matched theirs.

The Masada comes with plates for four of the most popular optics (not pictured: Leupold Deltapoint Pro).

The trigger is good. Mine was mushy towards the wall, but the six-pound break is still relatively clean, and there isn’t any overtravel. In that way, I’d say it’s comparable to a factory Glock trigger – maybe a little better. The trigger isn’t the gun’s strongest suit, but I didn’t find it to hinder my ability to put shots on target. On the contrary, I hit everything I aimed at with the Masada.

That’s probably also due to the gun’s inherent accuracy. At 25 yards, the gun grouped in the 3-4” range, and at 15 yards those groups shrunk down to 1.5-2”. I used a Ransom Multi Cal Steady Rest for all testing along with two different 9mm loads from Hornady.

Nice group here from 15 yards.

Sig P320 Killer?

Sig’s P320 was a big deal when it was released because it was the first totally modular, widely available handgun. Sig accomplished this feat by serializing the trigger assembly rather than the frame. With a serialized trigger, users could swap out smaller or larger frames and slides without having to do paperwork for a different gun. This functionality also allowed users to customize their firearm to suit their specific needs and physical characteristics.

The Masada also features a removable serialized trigger assembly, but unlike Sig, IWI hasn’t released any different frames or slides.

I asked Gresham about this, and here’s what he said:

“Obviously, that would make the most sense, but I do not have any information about that at the current moment. But being that it is a modular system, that would make the most sense, yes.”

When I pointed out that there would be a huge market for another modular handgun, he just said, “Agreed.”

The serialized trigger assembly can be easily removed from the frame, but so far IWI hasn’t released any other slides or frame sizes.

You can read between the lines and form your own theories. Maybe IWI developed the gun for a modular handgun contract they didn’t secure. Maybe they have different priorities right now. From Gresham’s statements, it sounds like IWI knows the Masada could rival the P320, but right now, for whatever reason, they aren’t pursuing that at this time.

It’s similar to the P320 in other ways, however. The Masada’s barrel and overall length are both about 0.5” shorter, and it’s about 5oz lighter (25.2 oz), but the overall dimensions feel familiar. I’d give the nod to the P320’s trigger based on the P320’s I’ve used, but otherwise, the Masada is equally comfortable to shoot and just as user-friendly.

Applications

I can see this firearm filling a variety of needs – from home defense to competition to concealed carry. It’s probably a little big for that last option, but Gresham said it’s been approved for USPSA Production and Carry Optics competitions.

While Gresham admitted that it might not stand up against purpose-built race guns, I agreed with his overall assessment: “It’s a well-built pistol that generally can serve any role you put it in,” he said.

The Masada is a fantastic option for home defense.

With a 17-round magazine, rail for a flashlight, and plates for optics, it’s a perfect home defense firearm. If you’re a first-time gun owner looking to defend your home without spending more than $500 on a firearm, I’d give the Masada a look. If you don’t plan on purchasing an optic, however, be sure to get the sights swapped out for night sights.

Gresham mentioned that IWI has submitted the Masada to law enforcement all over the U.S., along with agencies abroad. While none of them haven’t bitten yet, he said individual officers have purchased it for duty use.

The Masada is a great handgun at a great price.

Final Shots

Considering its features and the reputation of IWI, the Masada might be the best value in full-sized striker-fired handguns on the market. It may not be able to challenge the P320 yet, but that might change in the near future. If you can find a Masada in the middle of this panic-induced gun-buying spree, snatch it up – and get on the Masada bandwagon before it leaves you behind.

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“Thousands” of guns, gun parts stolen from ATF By Tom Knighton

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The ATF has been up to quite a lot, recently. We’ve outlined a lot of their shenanigans here, though I’m sure there’s plenty we were unaware of. They’re likely to get away with it, at least for the time being, by arguing that it’s their job to make sure guns don’t end up in the wrong hands.

And, to some extent, that’s true.

However, it seems they suck more at their jobs than we thought.

With inflation, prices are up pretty much across the board, but if you’re looking for a new gun for recreation or self-defense, here’s a hint: the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) is offering them at an absolute steal. Seriously, the federal agency tasked with enforcing firearms regulations has such poor security that thousands of guns and gun parts once in its possession disappeared in the hands of thieves. And it has yet to fully implement recommended reforms.

 

“Since September 2015, the ATF has utilized the National Disposal Branch (NDB), formerly the National Firearms and Ammunition Destruction (NFAD) Branch, to centralize and streamline the disposal process of forfeited and ATF-owned firearms. Each year, the ATF destroys thousands of firearms at the NDB,” the U.S. Justice Department’s Inspector General noted in announcing a recent report. “The DOJ Office of the Inspector General (OIG) undertook this audit following the discovery that thousands of firearms, firearm parts, and ammunition had been stolen from NFAD from 2016 to 2019.”

 

So, for three years, the agency that enforces every petty and intrusive federal regulation regarding firearms (as well as alcohol, tobacco, and explosives) let its own security personnel (“a DHS contract security guard was convicted in connection with these thefts”) pilfer its inventory.

 

Strictly speaking, the report isn’t about the thefts themselves, which were discovered by accident during a traffic stop. The recent report delved into the ATF’s progress in implementing anything resembling the security procedures it requires of the private gun dealers it oversees—or maybe just something more challenging than leaving “intact weapons … in unsecured boxes and unlocked containers.” So, how is the ATF doing at storing firearms at least as securely as you might expect of private businesses?

In short, not particularly well.

Now, let’s understand here that the ATF has been quick to hammer gun stores for every clerical error they can find, shutting down stores now over what would have been a warning at most a year or two back. They expect everyone to get everything perfect and if you don’t, your FFL is in jeopardy.

Meanwhile, they’re leaving guns around in boxes for literally anyone to walk off with.

I’m not a big fan of the ATF, but they exist and our tax dollars pay for them to do a certain job. That job isn’t to harass mom-and-pop gun stores into extinction. It’s to keep guns out of the hands of the bad guys.

Yet by not implementing basic security measures from the start, they’ve facilitated those same bad guys getting guns.

I mean, did they think thieves wouldn’t want to get their hands on seized firearms or something? Did someone honestly not realize this could potentially be a thing?

Now that they know, I’m left wondering why they haven’t already tripped over themselves to implement every necessary security measure possible to try and prevent this kind of thing.

What I do know is that the ATF lost any moral authority it had, not that it had much to begin with.

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War Trophies: Bring Back Guns Gaining in Value

The deadliest and most violent war in human history led to the production of millions and millions of guns.

Guns like the much revered M1 Garand and M1911 ended up as surplus weapons, distributed through the Civilian Marksmanship program or, like the Garand and M1 Carbine, were sold out of barrels at the local sporting goods and gun stores for hunting.

But some guns ended up as trophies in the homes of the soldiers, sailors, and airmen who fought in the war after being carried home in a duffle bag or foot locker — “the bring back gun.”

Surrender-Nambu-on-background-3This Nambu Type 14 pistol was surrendered by a Japanese general at Ie Shima in World War 2. It is available as Lot 2471 in the June 22-24 Sporting and Collector Auction.

War Souvenirs

Napoleon promoted taking war trophies. Today, Ukrainian farmers tow away Russian tanks. The Hague Convention of 1907 put limitations on war trophies including municipal property, religious articles, arts and science related articles, and state property. World War II British Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery discouraged the practice but that didn’t stop his men from doing it.

War trophies could be a patch, a coat, a helmet, a dagger, or, alas, more grisly stuff. Firearms are the focus here — the exotic weapon of a foreign military taken off a soldier, found in a factory, or simply rooting around. Not all of these bring back guns are created equal.

While many were non-descript LugerNambu, or Walther pistols or rifles like the Gewehr 41, Karabiner 98k, or Type 38, some rose above. They were special — or infamous — guns due to a historical connection.

Beretta-on-background-2This Beretta 1934 pistol has World War 2 bring back documentation. It is part of Lot 413 in the June 22-24 Sporting and Collector Auction.

WW2 war Trophies

Several Japanese World War 2 era pistols are available in the June 22-24 Sporting and Collectors Auction but one rises above them. More than 400,000 Nambu Type 14 pistols were made for World War 2. A Type 14 surrendered by a general at Ie Shima, off the coast of Okinawa, accompanied by bring back paperwork is expected to draw more interest than the other Japanese pistols in the auction.

In RIAC’s May Premier Auction a pair of engraved presentation Walther PPs that had personal engraving done at the request of GIs at the firearms factory that included soldiers’ names and the 90th Infantry Division’s “Tough Ombre” logo. One was one serial number away from a similar Walther PP given to Gen. George Patton. They sold for $41,125 and $47,000 respectively.

Compare those to Walther pistols connected to Nazi leaders that sold well into the six figures. A Walther PPK carried by Herman Goering at the time of his surrender sold for $230,000 at a Premier Auction in September 2018, but was topped by a chrome-plated and engraved Walther PP attributed to SS Chief Heinrich Himmler that sold for $356,500 at RIAC’s May 2019 Premier Auction.

While many soldiers were simply looking for a memento of their service in the war, be it a pistol, a rifle, a patch, or helmet, some discovered souvenirs with significant history attached to them that can launch a bring back gun into a rarefied class of weapon.

Himmler-pistol-on-backgroundThis chrome-plated Walther PP pistol attributed to SS Chief Heinrich Himmler sold for $356,500 in Rock Island Auction Company’s 2018 Premier Auction.

Cold War Trophies

By the end of the Korean War, the U.S. military frowned on war trophies to avoid looking like looters. In recent conflicts the goal is to appear as liberators and not conquerors. Certain items were still allowed but required the approval of a superior officer and a completed DD Form 603-1 to present at customs.

The military also prohibited returning weapons to the United States that were prohibited under the National Firearms Act of 1934. These included items like full-auto machine guns and silencers. That didn’t stop AK-47s and SKS rifles from getting into the United States as contraband during the Vietnam War. However, a person caught with this contraband could face criminal charges. One lot in the upcoming Sporting and Collector Auction includes Chinese semi-automatic rifles brought back from Vietnam.

Chinese-trioThese three Chinese military rifles were brought back from Vietnam. Lot 364 includes a M21 Type 56 semi-automatic rifle (top), Type 56 semi-automatic rifle, and a Type 53 carbine.

Prohibited weapons were only part of the concern of war trophies. Items that a soldier might see as a trophy, like a claymore mine or grenade are dangerous to ship, as this U.S. Army fact sheet from January 1968 lays out the dangers of war trophies. One scenario puts soldiers headed home on a Boeing 707 troop flight, and one turns to the soldier sitting next to him and says he’s got an RPG round in his bag as a souvenir.

The fact sheet states: “A Fairy Tale? Not on your life! That’s a scene which has been repeated for real more than once. Customs and postal officials have actually found, among other dangerous items, C4 plastic explosives, claymore mines with arming mechanisms, TNT, rifle grenades, flares, fireworks, and M72 rockets complete with launchers! These things and countless others have been in baggage or mail being flown to the U.S. aboard returning planes carrying 165 happy — and unsuspecting — soldiers home from a year of dodging VC bullets.”

A 1968 amnesty allowed veterans to register NFA items they brought back.

In 1991, the United States rules for engagement during Desert Storm stated “The taking of war trophies (is) prohibited.” During the later Iraq and Afghanistan wars, souvenirs had to go in front of a reviewing officer. Among firearms sold by Rock Island Auction from the Iraq war included a CIA-seized Ruger M77 bolt action Mannlicher rifle of Saddam Hussein and gold-plated pistols attributed to Saddam Hussein and Uday Hussein.

Udday-pistol-on-backgroundThis gold-plated Tariq pistol was among weapons seized from the home of Uday Hussein, son of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. It sold for $23,000 in RIAC’s June 2020, Premier Auction.

In 2005, a Minnesota National Guardsman was charged with shipping home two AK-47s from Iraq. In 2006, A U.S. Marine was also charged for possessing an illegal AK.

Permissible firearms are still allowed but require proper paperwork, including a receipt showing the date, place, and source of purchase, and the importer’s identity. War trophy firearms that are permitted can’t be mailed or shipped but must be personally transported to the United States.

Saddam-Ruger-on-backgroundThis Ruger bolt action rifle is seen in news footage of Saddam Hussein firing it in the air in celebration. It realized a price of $48,875 in RIAC’s September 2013 Premier Auction.

Martini-Henry Rifles

Gone are the days of the Luger, Walther, or Nambu bring back gun, but that doesn’t mean they no longer exist. It just means they are of a different type. In Rock Island Auction Company’s June Sporting and Collector Auction, numerous lots include bring back guns. Some are World War 2 trophies while a number are antique British rifles acquired in Afghanistan with bring back papers from Bagram Air Force Base.

They aren’t AKs or heavily engraved Walther pistols coming back from Afghanistan, but instead are single-shot Martini-Henry rifles and muzzle loading Enfield rifles. The 19th century guns date back to when the British Empire ruled the region. Most are considered in fair condition and came through Bagram Air Base in 2016.

Martini-Henry-on-background-2Antique British rifles are the bring back guns of Afghanistan. There are several lots in the June 22-24 Sporting and Collector Auction that include Martini-Henry and Enfield rifles that passed through Bagram Air Base on the way back to the United States.

War trophies are as old as war itself, but as war has changed so has the attitude and ability to take home souvenirs of combat. Fighting isn’t close in like it once was in the jungles of Vietnam or the hedgerows of Europe and countries don’t want to be seen as conquerors that can take whatever they please. Collecting militaria will always exist, but what will be collectible won’t likely be a gun taken from a factory assembly line in Germany, the pistol of a world leader, or the helmet of a fallen foe, making the war souvenirs of World War II and military actions on into the 21st century even more scarce and valuable. Check out the bring back guns in the June 22-24 Sporting and Collector Auction.

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