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More Truth Leaks Out About Gun Control
More Truth Leaks Out About Gun Control

U.S.A. -( People with impressive titles tell us all sorts of things. These experts are often wrong. They are either talking outside their area of competence, or they are lying to us. I keep seeing examples like this about gun control. The more I learn, the more I have to trust my own research to be sure I have the truth. Have you noticed this too?

No One Owns Guns Anymore?

There is a claim that gun ownership is declining and most of the guns in the US are owned by only a few gun owners. I tried to take that story seriously since the report was from the Washington Post rather than the National Enquirer.
It is true that we don’t have solid nationwide data to evaluate that assertion that gun ownership is delining. We do have solid data from some states, and we have inferential data from across the country, both of which strongly contradict that claim.
The federal government doesn’t keep a registry of gun owners. However, gun shops use the FBI national instant background check system to see if a potential gun buyer is allowed to buy a gun. The number of background checks has grown year after year. Gun manufacturers also reported growing cumulative sales to the US market.

NICS Checks Per Month in Millions
NICS Checks Per Month in Millions

In contrast to national data, some states register each gun and each gun owner. Anti-rights states like California, Illinois, New York, Connecticut and Massachusetts require mandatory permits before you can buy a gun. Some require a gun owner’s identification card as well.
These states have steadily increased the regulatory burden on gun owners, and that should have made gun ownership decline. If the existing gun owners in these states were the only people who buy guns, then the number of registered gun owners would have stayed the same or fallen. Instead, we saw the number of registered gun owners increase in these states.
We have other data as well. We saw the number of concealed carry license holders increase by about 6 percent to 17.25 million people. Deep in mind that 13 states allow citizens to carry without a permit.
Gun control advocates could argue the point. The growing number of registered gun owners in anti-gun states does not exactly follow the growth of gun ownership nationwide. It is true that each NICS background check does not conclusively document a gun sale. The extraordinary and undocumented claim by the Washington Post is that the number of gun owners declined even though all these other indicators went up.

Only white men living out in the country own guns?

We’ve been sold the story that gun owners are old white men. As I said before, we don’t know exactly who owns a gun. We have even less information about the sex and racial makeup of gun owners. As we dig deeper, we find out that even the NRA doesn’t know the racial mix of its members. However, the fundraising group Friends of the NRA does know the race of its members and guests. If there are a group of old, racist gun owners somewhere, then we should have found them here at Friends of the NRA..but we didn’t.
Instead, we found that 40 percent are women. 40 percent are minority members. The average age is between 40 to 45. That looks an awful lot like the rest of the USA.
The industry trade group for gun manufacturers gets reports from firearms retailers about their customers. 66 percent of new shooters are between 18 and 34 years old. 37 percent of new shooters are female. 47 percent of new shooters live in urban/suburban settings. That doesn’t fit the stereotype we were sold.
When you stop to think about it, it makes sense that older people own more guns than younger people. Older people have had a lifetime to accumulate wealth and possessions. They own more houses and more cars as well. It makes sense that they would also own the most guns.. almost.
It turns out that the rate of gun ownership is almost the same between people under 35 years of age, and those 35 and above. What is surprising is that young people are almost twice as likely to carry concealed.
Some states collect information on the sex and race of those who apply for concealed carry permits. More of us are carrying concealed each year, but the rate at which women and minorities are applying for their permits is growing at twice the average rate.

We’re killing our school children with assault rifles?

California Senator Dianne Feinstein asked questions of Judge Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings. Senator Feinstein said there were hundreds of school shootings with assault weapons in recent history. I went back over 60 years and counted three mass murders in US schools where semi-automatic rifles were used. None of the attacks used an automatic weapon. Not one.
If they were not mass murders, then maybe Senator Feinstein was confused by less deadly attacks on our schools? The US Department of Education said that there were 235 incidents where a gun was used at a school last year. That number doesn’t match the databases I’ve seen. In fact, it looks so strange that even National Public Radio questioned the claim. NPR used an independent research service to contact all of the schools who listed a gunshot on or near campus. NPR was able to confirm 11 incidents. Keep in mind that is about a dozen incidents among 130 thousand schools. The rate of 1 in ten thousand schools is certainly not an epidemic..and that is a good thing.

The US leads the world in mass murder?

 A professor from the University of Alabama released an unpublished report to the New York Times. The professor claimed that the US had 31 percent of the mass murders in the world from 1966 to 2012 even though the US only has 5 percent of the world’s population. No one was allowed to see the data.
Other researchers produced their own report and came up with very different answers. One report said the US had about 1.4 percent of the mass murders, again with a population of 5 percent. The US went from being the most dangerous, to one of the safer countries..and this data is available for review. What should we conclude when the headlines from the New York Times miss the target by a factor of 30 or more?

The more I learn, the more I have to trust my own research to be sure I have the truth.

Please let us know as you see more mistakes published by the press.

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About Rob Morse
The original article is here.  Rob Morse writes about gun rights at Ammoland, at Clash Daily, and on his SlowFacts blog. He hosts the Self Defense Gun Stories Podcast and co-hosts the Polite Society Podcast. Rob is an NRA pistol instructor and combat handgun competitor

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I guess he does not like Hi-point!

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Do they have one for a Sig P-220. I wonder?

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Now here is a Shotgun! The THE CHURCHILL XXV

The Churchill XXV

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By Chris Batha

EJ. Churchill Gunmakers was established in 1891 by Edwin John Churchill, who set up a workshop in London at 8 Agar Street, the Strand. In 1899 Edwin was joined by his nephew, Robert Churchill. Edwin was a renowned pigeon shot who used this experience along with his gunmaking skills to make and fit pigeon guns for clients.
It was common at the time for gunmakers also to supply their own brand of cartridges for gamebirds as well as pigeon-shooting competitions. Both Edwin and Robert were considered ballistic experts and often consulted for Scotland Yard in murder inquiries involving firearms.
Beyond the company history, the mention of E.J. Churchill often conjures up discussions of the iconic Churchill XXV shotgun, with its relatively short 25″ barrels and unique, raised, inverted-V rib. Arguments for and against the rib have been carried on among sportsmen since the rib’s introduction, during the development of the XXV, from 1913 to 1915.
There are various tales regarding the genesis of the Churchill XXV. A strong favorite is that Robert was practicing for the Monte Carlo live-pigeon shoot when he somehow plugged the end of the barrels of his 30″ pigeon gun with snow. Being completely unaware of the blockage, he fired the gun and bulged the muzzles; so he cut back the damaged barrels to 25″ and shot the gun in competition.
The fabled Monte Carlo pigeon ring was smaller than standard rings, which meant that competitors had to shoot quicker to drop the pigeons in the ring. It could be attributed to Churchill’s “instinctive” point-and-shoot technique in tandem with the faster dynamics of the shorter-barreled gun, but such was his straight shooting that he began to experiment with the fine-tuning and manufacture of the XXV.
The other variation on the XXV story was that the shorter barrels were the result of a workshop snafu. A shotgun in for an annual strip and clean was dropped accidentally and badly dented at the muzzles.
With the season fast approaching, the client was told that the barrels could be shortened at the point of damage, retro-choked and used for the season and that new replacement barrels would be made for the following year.
The client enjoyed such an upturn in his shooting success that he not only kept the shortened gun but also ordered another with 25″ barrels to create a pair. Truth or fiction? We probably never will know for certain.
In the early 1900’s there were hundreds of gun makers covering the length and breadth of Great Britain. Except for some proprietary patents and designs, all of the guns produced were similar, with only the makers’ names and reputations and the quality of the finish separating them.
Robert Churchill was the P.T. Barnum of gun makers, and early on he identified what his customers really wanted: “simply to be able to shoot better.”
His most inspiring marketing strategy was the introduction of the “instinctive shooting” style and to make a gun that complemented it—the Churchill XXV.
And to complete the plan he opened a shooting school to teach his instinctive-shooting technique. The XXV was a great success, with nearly 400 guns sold between 1923 and 1924 and 368 sold in 1927-’28. Publication of Churchill’s books How to Shoot (1938) and Game Shooting (1955) kept interest alive.

The Instinctive Shot

Churchill Gun Club was opened at Crayford in Kent, a short train ride from central London. The one famous shooting instructor there was Norman Clark, who subsequently moved to Holland & Holland and was a mentor to Ken Davies. The “Churchill style” still is being taught there by Ken’s successor, Chris Bird.
In Churchill’s Shotgun Book (1955), Robert Churchill’s teaching went hand-in-glove with the use of his Churchill XXV shotgun. The primary emphasis was—and is—placed on the drilled practice like that found in kata (or “form”) in the martial arts.
The practice consists of performing the fundamentals of footwork, posture and gun mount, with total faith placed in hand-eye coordination to put the pattern on the bird without any reference to the bead or the lead—in the same manner that one would catch a ball. The practice requires hard focus; a smooth, well-practiced gun mount; the butt of the gun being placed in the shoulder pocket and the comb into the cheek; the swing speed being achieved by a transference of weight onto the back foot; and the shot being taken without pause or check.
And the perfect gun for the job was—and in many cases still is—the Churchill XXV.

The Technical Case for the XXV

As mentioned, the XXV had not only 25″ barrels but also a unique V-shaped raised rib. The raised rib required a higher comb, and Robert Churchill’s idea on stock fitting was that a higher comb with less drop placed the head in a more natural position.
A shotgun’s barrels—both their length and weight—impact swing speed, recoil and, to some extent, muzzle flip. Churchill discovered that shorter barrels are more responsive than longer barrels, as they start faster and swing faster.
The combination of Churchill’s instinctive-shooting method (the speed of swing and a smidge of muzzle flip) with a raised rib ensured that if the trigger were pulled without pause or check as the muzzles passed through the head of the bird, sufficient lead would be created to place the cloud of shot on the bird.
When shooting driven pheasants at the average height of around 30 yards, which was the norm of the period, it was, indeed, a deadly combination.
____________________________________  The only problems with guns like this. Is that they generally have too many zeros on the price tag. But Someday, I shall hopefully get one ! Grumpy

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A Century Arms Inc Russian 1895 Nagant 7.62 Nagant

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So you say you need a good, reliable,rugged pistol that is not going to cost a lot. Something that you could throw into your pack & forget about until you need it? Then maybe you should think hard about getting one of these.
Now granted it is not a Colt Python and never will be. But is a solid gun that packs a fairly good punch. (I would not go bear hunting with it) But I also would not want shoved in my face either.
Also the Russian do make solid reliable guns. And this is a classic example of one. Plus they are fun to shoot! But it up to you to decide as it is your choice!

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What the Hell is 8.6 Creedmoor? by IVAN LOOMIS

The Q Mini Fix in 300 Blackout above the Q Fix in 8.6 Creedmoor.

What the hell is 8.6 Creedmoor?
It’s the .338 Federal, right? No. Similar, but no. Let’s start with where it is similar: It shoots a .338 projectile, or 8.6mm if you like. Past that, not much.

Taking a quick little look from 30,000 feet…

8.6 Creedmoor, if you’ve never heard of it, is a joint effort between Q (an innovative company making products from silencers, to the Honey Badger in 300 Blackout, as well as their completely re imagined bolt action rifle, The Fix) and Hornady (the massive ammunition manufacturer).
Additionally, because of Q’s ties with Noveske (a high-end rifle manufacturer), they’ve barreled a Noveske pistol in 8.6 Creedmoor to test reliability and function in gas guns.

Q’s Lineup: From top to bottom The Fix in 8.6 Creedmoor, The Mini Fix in 300 Blackout, the Honey Badger in 300 Blackout.

Let’s look at how the cartridge is made. Rather than starting with something like a .308, the way the .338 Federal does, we start with a 6.5 Creedmoor. We then cut the case down and neck it up. Is that confusing?
It took me a minute to wrap my head around it too. Here is why it is done though…

It comes down to science, math, and magic.

The case length of the .338 Federal is 2.015” where the 8.6 Creedmoor case is 1.685” in length.  Why does this matter? Well, if you want the ability to run heavy subsonic loads, 280 to 360+ grains, the longer 338 Federal case will put the ogive of the projectile back inside the case.  This is bad, your bullet will not perform.
On top of that, while starting with that “smaller” case capacity, it offers more consistent ignition. Especially with those heavy subsonic loads, in turn, giving you better performance shot to shot.
Due to the cartridge length, 8.6 Creedmoor will feed out of .308 Winchester magazines.  What does this mean? It will fit all of your magazines. Be they SR-25 patterned, AR10, Accuracy International, or even the magazine on your TIKKA rifle.  And, here is where it is pretty magical since the cartridge uses the same bolt face as a .308, it is just a matter of swapping barrels.

A Noveske AR10 pistol re-barreled with an 8.6 Creedmoor barrel by Q for testing.

And speaking of barrels, all of the .338 Federal data for SAMMI is collected from a 24” barrel with a 1/10 twist. Nope, hard pass. A 1/10 barrel can never stabilize heavy subsonic rounds. The twist rate is too slow, the same problem that plagues subsonic 308 / 7.62 NATO.
That slow of a twist rate will fire heavy bullets, but without the stabilization of a faster twist rate, they won’t be accurate at all.
The 8.6 Creedmoor is being designed around a fast barrel twist. Q is still kicking around prototypes anywhere from 1/3 twist to 1/5. The 1/3 does an amazing job of stabilizing big heavy bullets and providing the shooter with good accuracy.
It also performs well with light supersonic loads depending on the bullet type. Poorly made bullets will twist apart in flight. So, Q is finding the sweet spot with respect to heavy and light .338 projectiles.

From left to right: .300 Blackout, expanded .300 Blackout over an expanded .338 projectile, 8.6 Creedmoor dummy rounds.

As to barrel length and the 24” 338 Federal… Again, no. The 8.6 Creedmoor is designed around a short barrel. About 12.5” to be exact. Why? Because it sucks dragging a 24” barreled firearm through the woods, a doorway, the trunk of a car, or pretty much any other space you can think of—let alone if you want to thread a silencer onto said barrel. So, the 8.6 Creedmoor is being optimized for a short barrel.
Does this mean you will have to pay a $200 tax to the NFA for a short barreled rifle? Yes, or you can purchase a pistol. SB Tactical makes some amazing pistol braces which can greatly increase one’s ability to use a pistol if needed. Q will be releasing their Fix Rifle as a 12.5” barreled 8.6 Creedmoor pistol, utilizing an SB Tactical folding pistol brace when the round becomes available.

12.5” barrel Noveske 8.6 Creedmoor pistol with Q silencer and SB Tactical pistol brace. Small and capable.

And speaking of availability, Hornady is leading the charge. In recent years they have done an amazing job bringing some great high-quality cartridges to market. As a result, you will probably end up with easy access and availability to the 8.6 Creedmoor cartridge.

A number of different test loads for the 8.6 Creedmoor.

We probably could have started this whole article with the question of “Why?” Why bother with 8.6 Creedmoor? That is a fair question. And the answer is because it provides an amazing melding of supersonic and subsonic performance for the .308 platform.
If it helps, think of it as .300 Blackout’s big brother. We are taking a cartridge, cutting it down and putting a larger projectile into it, and optimizing it for a shorter barrel. That gives us better super and subsonic performance out to a moderate range than was previously available.
Now I guess you’re wondering if it does in fact perform. I’d say so, out of a 12.5” barrel the 8.6 Creedmoor with a 155GR bullet at 2500FPS brings 2,100 ft. lbs. of energy at the muzzle. With supersonic loads, it will outperform a 18” barreled .308 Winchester out to 300 yards.
Using 300+ grain expanding subsonic loads, the 8.6 Creedmoor generates 650+ ft. lbs. at the muzzle and is still maintaining 550 ft. lbs. out at 600 yards.  For reference, that is more energy than a 45ACP at the muzzle…
Bolt action or semi-automatic?  Yes. The 8.6 Creedmoor performs equally well out of a bolt action rifle as it does out of a gas gun.  I’ve shot the 8.6 Creedmoor out of a Fix Rifle as well as a Noveske AR10 Pistol. The 8.6 Creedmoor had no issues cycling the Noveske or locking back on an empty magazine while shooting supersonic and subsonic rounds.

Both the bolt action Fix by Q and DI gas gun by Noveske worked great for me.

Is the 8.6 Creedmoor quiet when running it through a silencer? Absolutely. Like with any supersonic round, you will have the associated crack while firing the round. But the real magic is in the subsonic loads. Out of a bolt action, it is about the same report as a .22 LR suppressed.
That’s ridiculously quiet considering the projectile you’re sending down range. Subsonic rounds through the gas gun are quiet, but suffer the same as any other round. You have a fair bit of noise coming from the ejection port and the cycling of the gun. But it is still quite pleasant to shoot.
Again, circling back to the why. While some of my friends have dropped large game, including elk, with shots at over 1,100 yards, that’s not the norm. If you have the capability, good on you.
Most hunters lack not only that skill to take an ethical shot at that range, but frankly the opportunity. Most game is taken anywhere from 50 to 250-300 yards. By way of example, the elk I shot last year was just over 100 yards away.
Just about the maximum distance I could have shot. Why? Because up in the part of Idaho where I live the only shots you get are in clear cuts. In the trees, a deer or elk could be 20 yards away and you’d be hard pressed to see one, let alone get a shot.
Not to mention who wants to walk through the woods with a 24” barreled rifle?  How about a suppressed 24” barrel so you don’t end up with permanent hearing loss? Nope. The 8.6 Creedmoor will allow a shooter to carry around a much smaller and lighter weapon system.
How about a 12.5” barreled Fix with a folding pistol brace? Climbing up to a tree stand, crossing a stream, hiking into the mountains? All the performance needed by most sportsman in a nice compact package.

The Q Mini Fix in 300 Blackout above the Q Fix in 8.6 Creedmoor.

Is this the perfect cartridge?  No. Is it the perfect cartridge for supersonic and subsonic performance out to medium ranges with a short barrel, the ability to run in bolt actions and semi-autos, feeding out of standard .308 magazines, with the option to run it with silencers for incredibly quiet supersonic performance?  Yes, it absolutely is.
Will the 8.6 Creedmoor be called 8.6 Creedmoor?  Possibly, but who knows. It may end up as the .338 Creedmoor, .338 Blackout, 8.6 Blackout… Time will tell.

Test rounds in Hornady made cases stamped 338 Creedmoor.

I guess the last question is, when can you buy one? Probably in 2019. Hornady and Q are working to finalize the cartridge as well as the optimized barrel (twist rate, length, etc.). Those should be wrapped up in 2019 so that the 8.6 Creedmoor can get put into production. Personally, I’m really looking forward to this cartridge.

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One constant through these experiences was gear and weapons. Having spent time in a lot of environments and with the opportunity to field a lot of equipment, he’s grown fond of well-made gear.

He now shares those experiences, adventures, and knowledge through contributing articles and videos to various publications, including his own site:

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Ishapore Model 2a1, Rfi, Indian Enfield No1 Mk3, Black 25” Military Bolt Atction Rifle MFD 1966 in Caliber 308 NATO

I have owned quite a few Smellys (Nickname for the SMLE). They all have been a really fun rifle to own and shoot. The only real problems being the ammo for 303 is not cheap anymore. But the 308 of course is a whole different story!
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SIG SAUER P220 Legion: The “Other” Single Stack .45 ACP Todd Burgreen, Contributor


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The SIG SAUER P220 Legion was tested at the range using multiple targets, plate racks, distant steel targets, and around barricades.

What comes to mind when “Metal frame single stack magazine .45 ACP” is mentioned? Most minds will immediately leap to Browning’s 1911.
However, another contender is out there that fits this description and has its own stellar reputation — the SIG SAUER P220.
The P220 resulted from the Swiss wanting a less expensive/less intensive to manufacture sidearm in lieu of the P210. The P220 was introduced into Swiss service in 1975.
The P220 was a bellwether for pistol design with subsequent SIG SAUER and other manufacturers’ handguns copying its tweaking of the Browning locked breech short-recoil method.

SIG SAUER modified Browning’s operating system by removing the locking lugs and recesses milled into the barrel and slide; instead, a single lug milled above the barrel’s chamber interacts with the slide’s large overhead ejection port acting as barrel to slide lock-up point.
The front contour of the barrel lug cam slot has been cut square to direct counter-recoiling forces up and forward into the barrel itself to reduce stress on the lug.

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The P220 Legion is similar in size to a Commander-sized 1911s and performs out of the box reliably with a high degree of accuracy. Photo courtesy of SIG SAUER.

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SIG SAUER is most associated with their respected line-up of double/single action handguns. The P220’s performance is a major reason for this. The recently introduced P220 Legion continues along this path.
The SIG SAUER P220 Legion has received the benefit of upgrades based on feedback from SIG SAUER’s elite professional clients around the world. A weapon with the Legion moniker is intended for customers who rigorously use their gear.

The P220 Legion

SIG SAUER’s plan with Legion members is to foster a brotherhood among its most loyal customer base, while also rewarding customers with exclusive product offerings even beyond SIG SAUER’s own products.
Not only is this savvy marketing, but also very productive to customers in terms accessing other companies SIG SAUER has partnered with.
To access the Legion all you need to do is call SIG SAUER and provide the serial number of the Legion item purchased. Account login information is given to new members granting access to certain parts of the SIG SAUER website.

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“Legion” is inscribed on top of the P220 Legion’s slide.

What sets the P220 Legion apart from its stablemates in the SIG SAUER line up? P220 Legion’s aesthetics are immediately noticed. Legion Grey PVD coating covers the slide and frame.
This is nicely accentuated by custom G-10 grips that have a Legion medallion embedded. These items are not merely idle window dressing — both the coating and grips improve the durability of the P220 Legion.
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Legion Grey PVD coating covers the stainless slide and frame. This is nicely accentuated by custom G-10 grips with a Legion medallion embedded.

After the aesthetic improvements are the ergonomic tweaks. The beavertail has been modified for both higher grip and reduced profile. Along these same lines, the trigger guard has been undercut allowing for higher grip thus greater control when firing, especially when combined with the beavertail work.
Aggressive checkering on the front strap/trigger guard area improves grip texture. The front cocking serrations provide greater purchase for cycling the action, clearing the firearm or conducting press checks.
A solid steel guide rod adds weight up front where it matters most for feel and natural pointing. Low profile de-cocking and slide catch levers round out the ergonomic improvements.
Lastly, superior sights and custom tuned DA/SA trigger fulfill SIG SAUER’s goals with the P220 Legion. SIG SAUER XRay3 Day/Night sights provide aiming solution no matter light conditions.
The Legion’s sights provide a solid sight picture if in a hurry reacting to an adversary no matter light conditions. The sights are also proficient in providing stand and deliver accuracy at distance.
The P220 Legion instills confidence with how it stacks hits on targets resulting in jagged hole groups.

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SIG SAUER XRay3 Day/Night sights provide aiming solution no matter the light conditions. Photo courtesy of SIG SAUER.

SIG SAUER’s upgraded SRT (Short-Reset Trigger) was further advanced via polishing and then adding Grayguns Precision Adjustable Intermediate Trigger (P-SAIT). The P-SAIT is created from heat-treated alloy steel and adjusts for over travel.
The trigger shape is configured specifically to work with a DA/SA handgun. The P220 Legion comes standard with three 8-round magazines.
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SIG SAUER Elite 230-grain FMJ, 230-grain JHP, and 200-grain JHP were used to evaluate the P220 Legion. The firing was at a relatively steady pace with different shooters running the P220 Legion thru its paces on plate racks, dueling trees, and other drills.
The transition from the first round 10 lbs. double action trigger pull to the remaining 5 lbs. the single action went smoother than anticipated.
More significant was the change in pull length between first and second round. I am stating this from a predominantly 1911 or striker fired shooters perspective.

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The P220 Legion performed as expected from a SIG SAUER—accurately and reliably with multiple types of ammunition.

P220 Legion’s ergonomics and handling characteristics are quickly appreciated and make a user understand why the P220 as a whole is so well thought of. The full-size grip frame and overall balance of the P220 managed recoil well.
It’s not normal protocol to bench test handguns for accuracy due to reliability and quick engagement of targets being more paramount.
However, it could not be resisted with the P220 Legion due to the SIG reputation for accuracy and quality control. The SIG SAUER P220 Legion did not disappoint producing 2″ groups at 25 yards. I was left with the feeling I was the weak link in the accuracy equation.
SIG SAUER ergonomics combined with the slide’s track along the entire length of the frame during recoil and manageable .45 ACP muzzle signature allows for a very stable sight picture no matter how many or how rapid rounds are fired.
The SIG P220 Legion’s slide seemed to reciprocate on ball bearings it moved so smoothly with the sights tracking smoothly in between shots fired. Subsequent range visits have only reinforced my initial impressions.
The modified beavertail’s frame protrusion guides one’s hand to the optimum grip position during the draw stroke and aids in recoil management.
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Front cocking serrations assist in slide manipulations. Photo courtesy of SIG SAUER.

The quality of SIG SAUER fit and finish speaks volumes as to how the P220 Legion obtains such levels of accuracy and reliability. There are no tool marks evident and no lateral play in the slides fit to frame or barrel to slide.
The barrel locks up tight when in battery. The P220 Legion easily fits concealed carry, personal defense, and tactical roles.
The SIG SAUER P220 Legion is ideal for anyone wanting to capitalize on the SIG SAUER reputation for out of the box reliability and accuracy, while also becoming a member of a group of like-minded people.


  • CALIBER: .45 ACP
  • TRIGGER PULL DA: 10 lbs.
  • TRIGGER PULL SA: 4.4 lbs.
  • HEIGHT: 5.5″
  • WEIGHT: 30.4 oz.

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Tinkering Tuesday – A bastard Magnum

The Winchester Model 70 should be offered in classic calibers. 270 Win, 30-06 Gov’t, 375 H&H, 264 Win Mag, and the like. And it should also be stocked in dense walnut. And in no way shape form or fashion should it be offered in a niche, nearly wildcat, flash in the pan cartridge. Like those short magnums that have no real purpose.

So pretty much the exact opposite of this.

Yeah, I’m not sure what I’m gonna do with it either. But it’s a Hartford produced Model 70, with CRF, a target crown, free floated barrel, and nicely bedded. For the employee price my manager made me on it, I couldn’t let it sit on the rack.
Disregard the cheap Chinese Wal Mart special scope atop it; the older Loopy VX-III was sold to another employee.
The Short Magnums are interesting from a ballistic stand point, and I love all things Model 70. Even though I felt Jack O’Connor’s scorn as I did my 4473.