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The .30-30 Winchester is the best overall choice when it comes to deer-hunting ammo. It was used in the Winchester Model 1894 lever-action rifle, making it one of the oldest types of ammo still produced. The 30-30 remains popular due to its limited recoil. The average 150-grain or 160-grain 30-30 rounds produces 9 pounds to 11.7 pounds of recoil while the typical rifle produces up to 15 pounds of recoil. The lack of recoil allows you to stay on target. You can also enjoy deep penetration, which is important for taking down your target with a single shot. 30-30 Winchester is a great choice for deer hunting but isn’t ideal for large game hunting, such as moose and elk. It’s also not often used for long-range hunting, as 30-30 rounds are commonly found in lever-action rifles made for close-range and medium-range targeting.
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Using .243 Winchester cartridges is a great alternative to the .30-30 Winchester for those with a bolt-action rifle that still want limited recoil. The .243 Winchester rounds are used in bolt-action rifles and offer a little less recoil compared to the 30-30 rounds. You can find .243 Winchester in lightweight, bolt-action rifles with great accuracy. It’s a good choice for younger hunters and those that are new to hunting. However, it lacks the power and energy needed for long-distance shooting. The barrel of the typical .243 rifle is often shorter compared to larger caliber rifles. Yet, the .243 Winchester is a top recommendation for distances up to a few hundred yards.
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Purchasing .308 Winchester cartridges can save money compared to other rounds. The .308 is one of the most affordable cartridges available. The low cost of this ammo may appeal to those that hunt frequently or spend time honing their shooting skills.
.308 Winchester rounds also produce a lot of energy. They have a total energy of about 2,600 pounds per foot and drop just 15 inches at 300 yards. .308 Winchester rounds may be more accurate in medium ranges of 300 to 500 yards compared to the previous types of ammo.
The drawback to using .308 Winchester rounds is the recoil. These rounds produce more recoil compared to the .30-30 and .243 cartridges, which can slow your firing rate.
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The 6.5 Creedmoor cartridge is manufactured by Hornady, which is an American company based in Nebraska. The company specializes in making high-quality ammunition. 6.5 Creedmoor rifles are suited for big game hunting while the previous options lack the stopping power needed to take down larger animals. These rounds are also made to maintain energy across long distances, making them well-suited for targeting animals at further ranges. A rifle with 6.5 Creedmoor should have an effective range of about 1,000 yards. However, other options may provide a little more accuracy for long-distance shooting.
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The .30-30 Winchester is a common choice for deer hunting, as it’s the ammo used in one of the most traditional lever-action deer-hunting rifles. It works well for close-range and medium-range hunting but tends to drop significantly at longer ranges. Using .243 Winchester rounds is an alternative to .30-30 rounds. Instead of lever-action rifles, the .243 rounds are often used in bolt-action rifles. Bolt-action rifles tend to offer greater accuracy. 308 Winchester is one of the most affordable options. If you spend a lot of time at the range between hunting trips, you may prefer using cheaper ammo. 6.5 Creedmoor cartridges are lightweight and made specifically for long-range shooting. It’s a heavier caliber compared to the previous options, making it more versatile. Along with deer hunting, you can use 6.5 Creedmoor for hunting larger animals, such as moose.
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| Rita Hayworth — 1941 Lincoln Continental |
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| Rita Laroy — Ruxton |
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| Anita Stewart — 1930 Packard convertible sedan |
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| ? and Janet Gaynor — MG-TD roadster |
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| Jackie Coogan — Rolls Royce(?) |
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| Debbie Reynolds — Facel Vega |
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| Diana Dors — 1955 Cadillac |
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| Edmund Purdom — unknown roadster |
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| Errol Flynn — Auburn Supercharged roadster |
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| Clark Gable — Duesenberg SJ |
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| Paulette Goddard — Rolls Royce(?) |
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| Jean Harlow — 1934 Cadillac town car |
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| Janis Paige — 1940-41 Mercury(?) |
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| Jean Parker — 1932 Chevrolet Six |
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| Jill St. John — 1958-60 Thunderbird |
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| Marilyn Monroe — Singer roadster |
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| Clark Gable — 1932 Packard V-12 roadster |
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| Sandra Dee(?) – Mercedes 190SL |
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| Doris Day — 1949 Ford |
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| Jean Harlow — Cadillac cabriolet |
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| Jackie Cooper — first car |
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| Robert Stack — Jaguar XK120 FHC |
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| Al Jolson & Ruby Keeler — unknown car |
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| William Powell and Gary Cooper in Cooper’s Duesenberg J Derham Tourster
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| Priscilla Lane — 1940 Pontiac Torpedo 8 |
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| Ginger Rogers(?) — 1936-37 Dodge |
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| Simone Simon — Packard coupe |
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Hey I don’t know about you. But sometimes you just get so tired of all this shit out there! Grumpy
Dave remembers when the original Browning Challenger was introduced.
It remains, in his view, the best all-around .22 pistol ever made.
Rimfire pistols and revolvers are among the most useful tools handgunners can own. They are outstanding for training new shooters and maintaining shooting skills. Ammunition is (or was) relatively cheap compared to centerfire ammunition and with virtually no recoil.
They are excellent for pest control and informal small game hunting around a farm or ranch, or to pack while camping, fishing, or hunting big game. But most of all, .22s are fun to shoot.
What about .22s as carry guns? I’m not talking about them as backup or last-ditch firearms but as primary personal defense weapons. The short answer is don’t do it. No. End of story.
Except there has to be a story. Yes, any gun is better than no gun. In the vast majority of instances in which a firearm is used defensively, no shots are fired. The person being threatened displays a firearm and the assailant either flees or surrenders. No sensible person wants to be shot. Most foolish people don’t want to be shot either.
The .22LR is no toy. There’s hardly a species on earth that hasn’t at one time or another been killed with a precisely placed .22 bullet. I’ve killed quite a few animals ranging from 300 to 1,200 lbs. with .22 rifles. For years on the farm, we butchered at least two steers and two hogs annually, meat for ourselves and a close relative or two.
Dad didn’t mind shooting vermin from around the barn but found it hard to shoot animals he’d raised. On butchering day, he’d always go to the house for a forgotten knife or sharpening stone, and it was understood the animal would be dead by the time he got back. One shot with the muzzle of the .22 rifle a couple of feet from its head and even a 1,200-lb. steer dropped instantly.
Don’t think I don’t have respect for the .22LR cartridge. But I cannot recommend a .22 handgun as a primary defensive arm. There are two fundamental reasons: reliability and power. In a semiautomatic action, the .22LR has two strikes against it. It is a rimmed case, not well adapted to being stacked in box magazines. And it is long for its diameter, making reliable feeding more problematic.
I have many .22 rifles, which have been completely reliable. Almost always, they are models with tubular or rotary magazines. Semiauto .22 rifles I’ve used with complete success include the Winchester 63 and 74, Browning takedown model, Remington Nylon 66 and 550, Marlin 60 and Ruger 10/22, among others. Box magazine semiautos have been less reliable.
The standard Remington Nylon 66 is legendary for its reliability, while the Nylon 77 with a detachable box magazine I once owned was nothing but trouble. Among detachable magazines, the only ones I can recommend unreservedly are the Ruger and Browning rotary design
I believe rimfire ignition is less reliable than centerfire ignition. I’ve had far more misfires with rimfire cartridges. Often, they will fire on a second strike, especially if you rotate the cartridge, so the firing pin strikes a different location. I’ve fired hundreds of thousands of centerfire rounds and can recall only two or three misfires.
There’s very little to go wrong with a centerfire primer other than a missing pellet of priming compound or missing anvil. Quality control is rigorous and the chances of a bad primer are remote. One reason I use Black Hills ammunition whenever possible is they visually inspect every primer before it goes to the loading machines, reducing the chances of a misfire to near zero. The handloader can do likewise by inspecting primers before loading. And do keep your oily fingers from touching the primer. There’s a good chap.
There are reliable .22s, most revolvers, for example. Some semiauto .22 pistols are as reliable as the best centerfires, including, in my experience, the Beretta 70 series, the Ruger .22 model, the S&W, 41 and the Browning Buckmark. I’m sure there are others. But that doesn’t solve the lack of power issue. I’ve conceded the effectiveness of the .22LR with precise shot placement.
Can you achieve such precision on what will likely be a moving target? Can you hit a rolling baseball — make that a golf ball — every time, on-demand, at speed and under great stress? Surviving a gunfight will take all the skill, courage and coolness you can muster, the most effective weapon you can manage and probably a good dose of luck. Unless you have no other choice, don’t handicap yourself with a .22.