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MP 18

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MP 18
Bergmann MP 18.1

Bergmann MP 18
Type Submachine gun
Place of origin German Empire
Service history
In service 1918–1945 (Germany)
Wars World War I
Second Sino-Japanese War
Chaco War
Chinese Civil War
World War II
Spanish Civil War
Production history
Designer Hugo Schmeisser
Designed 1916
Manufacturer Bergmann Waffenfabrik
Qingdao Iron Works
Produced 1918–1920s
Weight 4.18 kg (9.2 lb)
Length 832 mm (32.8 in)
Barrel length 200 mm (7.9 in)

Cartridge 9×19mm Parabellum
7.63×25mm Mauser
7.65×21mm Parabellum
Action open-bolt blowback
Rate of fire ~500 round/min
Muzzle velocity 380 m/s (1,247 ft/s)
Feed system 32-round detachable drum magazine TM 08 (World War I); 20-, 30- and 50-round detachable box magazine (post-World War I)

The MP 18 manufactured by Theodor Bergmann Abteilung Waffenbau was the first submachine gun used in combat.
It was introduced into service in 1918 by the German Army during World War I as the primary weapon of the Sturmtruppen, assault groups specialized in trench combat.
Although MP 18 production ended in the 1920s, its design formed the basis of most submachine guns manufactured between 1920 and 1960.
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A common myth is that the Treaty of Versailles banned the production and use of the MP 18 by Germany.
In fact, the treaty only limited the number of machine guns that Germany was permitted to stockpile, and no mention is made of machine pistols or the MP 18 in particular.[1]


Theodor Bergmann trade mark

Theodor Bergmann 1850–1931

What became known as the “submachine gun” had its genesis in the early 20th Century and developed around the concepts of fire and movement and infiltration tactics, specifically for the task of clearing trenches of enemy soldiers, an environment within which engagements were unlikely to occur beyond a range of a few feet.
In 1915, the German Rifle Testing Commission at Spandau decided to develop a new weapon for trench warfare.
An attempt to modify existing semi-automatic pistols, specifically the Luger and C96 Mauser failed, as accurate aimed fire in full automatic mode was impossible due to their light weight and high rate of fire of 1,200 rounds per minute.
The Commission determined that a completely new kind of weapon was needed. Hugo Schmeisser, working for the Bergmann Waffenfabrik was part of a team composed of Theodor Bergmann and a few other technicians.
They designed a new type of weapon to fulfill the requirements, which was designated the Maschinenpistole 18/I.
It is not clear what the “I” designation is intended to indicate, although its successor, the MP28, was designated the Maschinenpistole 28/II.
Full-scale production did not begin until early 1918. Though technically not the world’s first submachine gun, being beaten by the double-barreled Italian Villar-Perosa of 1915, in modern usage of the term the MP 18 is considered the world’s first submachine gun since the Villar Perosa had been designed to be used as a light machine gun on aircraft before it was adapted to infantry use as a single-barreled shoulder-fired weapon in late 1918.

Service history

The MP 18 primarily served in the final stages of World War I in 1918, especially in the Kaiserschlacht offensive. At least 5,000 MP 18.1s were built and used during World War I, based upon observed serial number ranges of captured weapons; however, it is possible that up to 10,000 were built for the war.
The MP 18 proved to be an excellent weapon. Its concept was well-proven in trench fighting. The basic design directly influenced later submachine gun designs and showed its superiority over the regular infantry rifle in urban, mobile, and guerrilla warfare.
The MP 18 served with German police and paramilitary forces after the end of the war. It was widely used in combat by the Freikorps Von Epp against the Spartacus League in Bavaria and by other Freikorps in Berlin, where its efficiency in urban combat was demonstrated.
All the limited conflicts between 1920 and 1940 saw an increasing use of this new class of weapons, first in South America during the Chaco War, then in Europe during the Spanish Civil War.
Also in China during the Japanese invasion, where its use by well-trained Chinese troops was costly for the invaders as in the Battle of Shanghai. where fierce street fights prefigured World War II urban combat of StalingradWarsawVienna and Berlin.

A German soldier with an MP 18 in Northern France, 1918.

Since the treaty allowed the Weimar Republic to keep a small quantity of submachine guns for police use, a few hundred MP 18.1s were modified to accept Schmeisser’s original 20-round magazine design.
This modification, conducted by Haenel Waffenfabrik, required removal of the existing magazine well collar, and replacement with a different one.
These weapons were overstamped with the date “1920” on the receiver and magazine well to show they were legitimate weapons owned by the Weimar Republic and not war bring backs or clandestine weapons.
Bergmann sold the license of the MP 18. 1 to SIG Switzerland; the Swiss made model was known as SIG Bergmann 1920.
It existed in .30 Luger9mm Parabellum and 7.63 mm Mauser. The Bergmann MP 18.1 represents a milestone both in terms of armament technology and warfare tactics.
It opened the way for a whole new class of weapons and triggered the research for lighter automatic firearms to be used by mobile troops.
Its first direct competitors did not see service in World War I, but most of them saw use in all the limited conflicts taking place in the inter-war period.


MP 18 made in Tsing Tao, China, 1927

The Chinese produced a modified MP 18 in Tsing Tao with the assistance of Heinrich Vollmer.
The French, despite being moderately interested by this class of armament because they had designed and introduced in service many semi-automatic and automatic weapons, immediately launched studies based on captured MP 18s.
The design of the STA 1922 was adopted and the MAS 1924[3]entered service and was used in colonial war. The French MAS 35 and MAS 38 derived from one of the many prototypes of the immediate post war.
The MP 28 was produced by Haenel under the supervision of Hugo Schmeisser, it was copied by the Second Spanish Republic under the codename Naranjero. The Naranjero was chambered in 9mm Largo.[4]
The Austrian Steyr MP 34 was created by a team of technicians led by Louis Stange who designed a submachine gun for Rheinmetall in 1919 and used Bergmann’s MG 15 to design the MG 30.
The SIG Bergmann 1920 was used by Finland and Estonia, it was the inspiration for the Estonian Tallinn 1923 and the Finnish Suomi model 31, which in turn inspired Degtyarev for his PPD 34.
Emil Bergmann, Theodor Bergmann’s son designed the MP 32 that evolved into the MP34 as adopted by Denmark before to receive the MP35 name when adopted by nascent Wehrmacht in 1935.
This submachine gun is often mistaken with the Mitraillette 34, a MP28 made in Belgium by Pieper Bayard, former Bergmann licensed manufacturer or with the MP34 made by Steyr.
It is easy to identify the Bergmann MP 32/34/35 or its final version 35/1 since the cocking lever works exactly like a rifle bolt.
In 1940, with a pressing need for individual automatic weapons, the British copied the MP 28 and developed the Lanchester submachine gun for the Royal Navy.
Solidly built with the use of brass for the magazine well, and a bayonet mount, it entered service in 1940. The magazine and the bolt of the MP 28 could be used in the Lanchester.
The OVP 1918, an offspring of Revelli’s Villar Perosa 1915, inspired[citation needed] Heinrich Vollmer for his telescopic bolt used in the VPM 1930, EMP, MP 38, MP 40 and MP 41.
The MP 18 remained in limited service with the German armed forces during the Second World War, specifically with the Sicherheitsdienst, later eastern foreign divisions of the Waffen SS and also with Kriegsmarine coastal artillery units.

Design details

The MP 18 was a heavy weapon, weighing over 5 kg (11.0 lb) when fully loaded. The receiver tube was very thick (~3 mm), compared with later World War II submachine guns with half that thickness or less, such as the Sten gun or MP 40.

 Berlin 1919

Though Schmeisser designed a conventional 20-round-capacity “box” magazine for the weapon.
the Testing Commission, for practical reasons, insisted that the MP 18 be adapted to use the 32-round TM 08 Luger “snail” drum magazine that was widely used with the long-barreled version of the P 08 pistol known as the Artillery model.
Like many other open-bolt designs, the MP 18 was prone to accidental discharge. If the buttstock of a loaded gun was given a hard knock while the bolt was fully forward, the gun could accidentally fire because of the bolt overcoming the action spring resistance and moving rearward enough to pick up a round, chamber it and fire.
Soldiers liked to leave the bolt of their firearm in this closed or forward position, so dirt and debris would not enter the barrel and chamber.
This ‘Bolt-closure’ practice acted as a dust cover for the weapon’s chamber, preventing a malfunction from occurring because of the presence of foreign debris, but making accidental discharge more likely.
The German police asked for an external safety on their MP 18s, and a universal bolt-locking safety was added on all the submachine guns used by the police.
Later submachine gun designs like the Sten and the MP 40 were modified to allow the cocking handle to be pushed inwards to lock the closed bolt to the tubular receiver casing. This design change prevented accidental discharges when the bolt was left forward and a loaded magazine was inserted.


TM 08 magazine for Bergmann MP 18.1

Ladegerät (loading appliance) for the TM 08 magazine

loading a TM 08

post World War I MP 18 with universal safety

Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, 1943—an MP28 featured in a photo from the Stroop Report

Another photo from the Stroop Report, showing an MP 28 in Warsaw, 1943

The original MP 18.1 was designed to use the snail drum magazine of the Luger Artillery model pistol. This rotary design type of magazine holds 32 rounds of 9 mm Parabellum, the user having to load the magazine with a proprietary loading tool.
A special sleeve was required when the snail drum was used on the MP 18 to stop the snail drum from being inserted too far in the magazine well.
After 1920, the MP 18 was modified to use a straight magazine similar to those used in the later developed MP 40 submachine gun. The MP 18 could only fire in the fully automatic mode.
Its successor, the MP 28/2, received a modified mechanism with a selector for single shot or fully automatic fire.
Britain directly copied the MP28 at the beginning of World War II. The result was the Lanchester submachine gun, which saw service with the Royal Navy.
The British Sten used the side-mounted magazine configuration and a simplified version of the open-bolt firing operating system of the MP28.
The Soviet Union made a similar use of MP 18 design in their PPD-40 sub machine gun in 1934. Further development of the PPD-40 led to the simplified and mass-produced PPSh-41.
In China, both the Kuomintang Army and the Communist Army used MP 18 and MP 28 in the Second Sino-Japanese War.



  • Cornish, Paul (2009). Machine Guns and the Great War. Pen & Sword Books Limited. ISBN 978-1848840478.


  1. Jump up^ Cornish (2009): “It is frequently repeated as fact that the Bergmann Muskete had so impressed the Allies during the 1918 campaign that they specifically banned its production and military issue. In fact no such prohibition appears in the terms of the Treaty of Versailles. Strict controls were placed on the production of fire arms – principally by means of severely limiting the number of companies permitted to manufacture war materials – Bergmann was not among them. With regard to military issue, the numbers and types of weapons permitted to the 100,000-man German Army were carefully stipulated. There is no mention whatsoever made of machine pistols, although every other weapon type (apart from pistols) is listed – from cavalry carbines to 105mm Howitzers. Given the care that was taken to lay down such specific restrictions, it would appear that, far from having impressed the Allies, the MP 18 had not really registered on their consciousness at all. The fact that they were still unconvinced of the utility of such weapons on the eve of the Second World War would also suggest that the impact of the MP 18 on the fighting of 1918 was marginal.”
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  6. Jump up^ Mark Axworthy (1992). The Romanian Army of World War II. Osprey Publishing. p. 46. ISBN 1855321696.


  • Gotz, Hans Dieter, German Military Rifles and Machine Pistols, 1871–1945, Schiffer Publishing, Ltd. West Chester, Pennsylvania, 1990. OCLC 24416255
  • G. de Vries, B.J. Martens: The MP 38, 40, 40/1 and 41 Submachine gun, Propaganda Photos Series, Volume 2, Special Interest Publicaties BV, Arnhem, The Netherlands. First Edition 2001
  • Smith, W.H.B, Small arms of the world: the basic manual of military small arms, Harrisburg, Pa.: Stackpole Books, 1955. OCLC 3773343
  • Günter Wollert; Reiner Lidschun; Wilfried Kopenhagen, Illustrierte Enzyklopädie der Schützenwaffen aus aller Welt: Schützenwaffen heute (1945-1985), Berlin : Militärverlag der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik, 1988. OCLC 19630248
  • CLINTON EZELL, EDWARD. Small arms of the world, Eleventh Edition, Arms & Armour Press, London, 1977
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Fabrique Nationale Model 1949

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I briefly owned one of these rifle but it was in 7mm Mauser. But nonetheless it was one fine shooting rifle. But sadly economics intervened and I was forced to sell it. I just hope that who ever has it now is giving it a good home!Related image

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FN Model 1949

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
FN Model 1949
Type Semi-automatic rifle
Automatic rifle
Place of origin Belgium
Service history
In service 1949–1982
Used by See Users
Wars Korean War
Suez Crisis
Congo Crisis
Dominican Civil War
Falklands War
Production history
Designer Dieudonné Saive
Designed 1949
Manufacturer FN Herstal
Produced 1949–1961
No. built 176,000
Weight 4.31 kg (9 lb 8 oz)
Length 1116 mm (43.5 in)
Barrel length 590 mm (23.2 in)

Cartridge .30-06 Springfield
7.92×57mm Mauser
7×57mm Mauser
7.62×51mm NATO
7.65×53mm Argentine
Action Gas-operated short-stroke piston, tilting bolt
Feed system 10-round fixed box magazine, 20-round detachable box magazine in Argentine 7.62×51mm NATO conversions
Sights Iron sights / OIP 4x Telescopic sighton Belgium Sniper rifle

The Fabrique Nationale Model 1949(often referred to as the FN-49SAFNor AFN) is a rifle available as both a semi-automatic rifle and as a selective fire automatic rifle designed by Dieudonné Saive and manufactured by Fabrique Nationale.
It was used by the militaries of Argentina, Belgium, the Belgian Congo, Brazil, Colombia, Egypt, IndonesiaLuxembourg, and Venezuela. The automatic rifle version with selective fire produced for Belgium was known as the AFN.
While well regarded for its high build quality and reliability in comparison to the rifles of the time, its marketability was limited, as it was not developed in time for use in World War II but later, as many militaries had already begun the switch to selective fire battle rifles.
An unknown number of FN-49’s were produced as selective fire automatic rifles, but the small 10 round box magazine limited the usefulness of the fully automatic feature.
The FN-49 found itself in direct competition with a number of more modern rifles such as the Heckler & Koch G3 and Fabrique Nationale de Herstal‘s own FN FAL, resulting in limited sales.



Dieudonne Saive, Fabrique Nationale‘s then chief firearm designer, experimented with a number of recoil-operated rifle designs in the early 1930s.
While little came of these experiments, they would become the basis for a gas-operated semi-automatic rifle, which he patented in 1936 and prototyped in 1937. (Photographs of these prototypes still exist, and they show a number of characteristics that would later appear in the FN-49.)
FN’s new rifle was still in development in late 1938 – early 1939, and a version with a 5-round magazine was about to be marketed. But when German armies invaded Poland, these plans were delayed to increase production of bolt-action rifles and machine guns.
The German invasion of Belgium in May 1940 interrupted any plans for the production of the new model, as Liège, home of FN’s factory, was occupied by the German military. Despite this setback, Saive was able to escape to England via Portugal in 1941, where he continued work on what would become the FN-49.
By 1943, Saive was back to working on his experimental rifle, now in 7.92×57mm Mauser. Late that year, the Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield ordered 50 prototypes (designated “EXP-1” and sometimes referred to as “SLEM-1” or “Self-Loading Experimental Model”).
Based on tests with these prototypes, Enfield placed an order for 2,000 rifles for troop trials, but a last-minute problem with the moderation of the gas pressure (as well as the impending end of World War II) led to the cancellation of this order.
Despite this, Saive (who had returned to Liège shortly after its liberation in September 1944) continued work on the rifle, and finalized the design for the FN-49 in 1947.
The FN Model 1949 is ammunition specific since it does not have an adjustable gas port or valve to adjust the rifle to various propellant and projectile specific pressure behavior, except for some models, in which the gas port can be adjusted with a special wrench.
This also requires removing the upper forward handguard for the adjustment.

Production lifetime

Egyptian SAFN with riflescope

The contracts for the SAFN 1949 rifle started in 1948 with the first order placed by Venezuela on March 31, 1948, delivered by exactly four months later. The last production contract of complete rifles was ordered by Indonesia on December 19, 1960 and delivered by February 19, 1961.[1]
Some sources claim pre-production models for demonstration and testing were produced in 1948, making rifle ready for contract orders and mass production. Other sources however claim The rifle was trialed with the Royal Netherlands Navy in 1947, The Netherlands Navy trials did not however lead to a sales contract.
FN started looking for customers, but the communist states were not an option (as they were required to buy or build Soviet designs). The Western European nations had vast stocks of World War II firearms.
They also could get American and British weapons aid, which was inexpensive or free. So FN decided to market to the non-aligned countries, who did not want to commit to Western or Soviet doctrine, which was inevitable when accepting aid.[2]
The first contract production of the SAFN 1949 rifle was delivered to Venezuela by May 31, 1949 composed of 2,000 rifles in caliber 7×57mm Mauser with an additional 2012 rifles including cut-away training demonstration rifles delivered by July 31, 1949.[1]
The remaining rifles of the Venezuelan contract of 8,012 rifles were sold as surplus in the United States, and are prized by US collectors, sportsmen, and hunters because of the unique features ordered by Venezuela, the general good to excellent condition of the surplus rifles and the superb accuracy of the 7×57mm Mauser cartridge.
The second contract was for the Egyptian government ordered on May 30, 1948 and delivered by June 10, 1949, 100 rifles chambered to fire the 8×57mm Mauser cartridge. While initially a small contract delivery Egypt would eventually purchase 37,602 SAFN 1949 rifles total.[1]

Two FN-49 rifles from Belgian Army (ABL) contract. Upper weapon has no selective fire lever fitted, Lower weapon shows selective fire lever in Fully Automatic position.

The third contract was ordered by the Belgian government starting with thirty test rifles on May 12, 1949, received on August 31, 1949, and made a second larger order for 100 test rifles delivered by December 12, 1949.
The Belgians would make a contract for production of the SAFN 1949 rifle on August 24, 1950 for 6000 rifles in caliber .30-06 Springfield. The Belgians designated the rifle as the ABL SAFN-49, ABL is an acronym for the Belgian Army in both French and Dutch; “AB” for the French “Armée Belge” and “BL” for the Dutch “Belgisch Leger”.
The contracts for the SAFN 1949 rifle made by FN for Belgium totaled 87,777 rifles total, composing almost half of all FN-49 rifles ever produced.[1] A fully automaticselective fire version, known as the AFN was produced for the Belgian military.
It is sometimes stated that all the ABL weapons were either built as a selective fire automatic rifle or that all could be readily convertible to selective fire automatic rifle. The AFN was also used by the Marines of the Belgian Navy or ZM-FN. (Zeemacht – Force Navale).
Luxembourg was the fourth country to order the SAFN 1949 rifles with the first order placed on October 4, 1950 and taking possession of the first 1500 rifles by May 5, 1951.
The Grand Duchy of Luxembourg would eventually purchase a total of 6,306 rifles including rifles specifically for Luxembourg’s Gendarmerie, which were FN-49s that comprised standard models, training cut-away rifles, and sniper variants, all in caliber .30-06 Springfield.[1]
The Luxembourg models except for the Gendarmerie contract were sold as surplus in the United States, some were distributed to purchasers in larger US chain retail outlets.
The Luxembourg models are sought after for two reasons: first, because of the particularly good condition of the Luxembourg surplus rifles; and second, because of the fact that these FN-49 rifles were chambered for the .30-06 Springfield, a cartridge popular in the US sport shooting and hunting communities.
Very few .30-06 FN-49 rifles from other contracts have been imported into the United States, making the Luxembourg rifles the only affordable option for an FN-49 in that caliber.
Indonesia, the Belgian Congo, and Colombia would make up the fifth to seventh contracts all produced in caliber .30-06.[1]
Argentina requested the eighth contract ordering 5,536 SAFN 1949 rifles in caliber 7.65×53mm Argentine on July 29, 1953 for use by the Argentine Navy after an initial order of one test rifle in 1948.[1]
Several prototypes were made in other calibers, including at least five in 6.5×55mm for testing in Sweden, one in caliber 7.5×54mm French for testing in Syria, one in caliber .30-06 for testing in the United States, and one in caliber 7.62×51mm NATO for Brazil.[1]
A very small yet unknown quantity of commercial rifles chambered in .30-06 were imported to the USA and Australia by Browning some time during the 1960’s. These rifles are incredibly rare and few examples have been documented. They are configured with a polished checkered stock with a rollover cheek piece and side mount.

Argentinian modification

Contrary to some speculation FN did not contract or produce the Argentine conversion of SAFN 1949 rifles from 7.65×53mm Argentine to 7.62mm NATO.
While FN did receive and then later deliver an order for a conversion of a single rifle in March 1967 the remaining armory stock of the Argentine rifles were converted domestically by Metalúrgica Centro a company formerly known as Fábrica de armas Halcón.
Metalúrgica Centro provided and installed in each rifle a new barrel in 7.62mm NATO, modified each ejector, and modified each trigger guard to take a new 20 round detachable box magazine.
The converted rifles were provided with proprietary 20 round detachable box magazines manufactured by Metalúrgica Centro to fit the SAFN 1949 rifle conversions.
The 20 round steel magazines are proprietary but were made to share the magazine loading charger with the FN FAL rifle used by the Argentine Army.[1] These chargers are the same as for the Mauser Kar-98k, and thus not interchangeable with standard NATO stripper clips.
A very small number were later used in the Falklands War as sniper rifles by the Argentinians.[citation needed]


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California Authorities Seize 500 Firearms From Convicted Felon

When you talk about states with the most strict gun control laws in the country, only a fool would exclude California from that conversation. The state prides itself on its gun control, and firearms are difficult for even the law-abiding citizen to obtain. There’s no way a felon could amass a pile of guns, right?
Oh, wait, that’s right. Criminals don’t follow any law they don’t want to obey. That includes gun laws, which is probably why this happened.

Authorities in California acting on a tip swept into a rural home and seized more than 500 guns from a convicted felon, the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department said.

The tip indicated Manuel Fernandez, 60, was “in possession of a large arsenal of firearms,” the department said in a statement. On Thursday, a team of state and local officers raided the house in Agua Dulce, about 45 miles north of Los Angeles. Authorities immediately seized 432 guns, the department said.

The next day, another 91 guns were found hidden at the Fernandez’s home, authorities said. Detectives also seized computers, cellphones and hard drives believed to be involved in the illegal purchase of firearms, the department said.

Another 30 guns were found at the home of a female associate of Fernandez.
Needless to say, Fernandez was arrested. He’ll probably spend a whole lot of time behind bars.
While authorities believe Fernandez was involved in the illegal gun trade, it’s important to remember something. This one individual was able to get his hands on more than 500 firearms despite his status as a felon. This despite the numerous laws designed to prevent him from doing so.
In fact, it’s almost like the laws did precisely nothing to keep guns out of Fernandez’s hands.
Nothing at all.
This individual was able to amass a massive arsenal for whatever purpose in spite of the countless laws explicitly meant to prevent just that. But criminals, by their very nature, don’t obey laws. Fernandez went around the law in some way, shape, or form to obtain all those weapons. This should illustrate the fallacy of gun laws keeping firearms out of criminal hands.
However, anti-gunners are experts at ignoring the truth.
They’ll look at this as evidence that more laws are needed. They’ll see this and be absolutely convinced that at least one more law is required. One more measure to pass and all of this could have been prevented.
The thing is, even if we learn precisely how Fernandez got these weapons, there’s little that will stop a determined criminal from getting guns. As noted yesterday, there’s a gun in this country for every man, woman, child, and infant. We have more than enough guns already in circulation that keeping guns out of the hands of criminals is a fool’s errand.
Yes, we should enforce the laws on the books. We should enforce them vigorously. But we should also make sure the law-abiding have the means to defend themselves from predators.
California sucks on that count.
Meanwhile, they can’t stop a felon from amassing a real arsenal of guns regardless of what the law says. Funny that.

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Cowboy Time Machine: Uberti Winchester 1873 by ARAM VON BENEDIKT

My father was a big advocate of old cowboy guns. Hailing from Europe by birth and upbringing, his fascination with the old West and the cowboys who won it bordered on overzealous. Any gun good enough to be preferred by the old-time cowboys was good enough for him.  He had a point. Thanks to companies like Uberti, people can capture and harness a little piece of the West.

Innovation is Born

The mid-1800s was a time of turmoil, heartache, and invention in America. The Civil war prompted an already imaginative congregate of firearm makers and designers to get even busier, and in a few short years, America left single shot muzzleloaders in the dust as it gave birth to the first truly effective high-capacity, breech-loading, repeating firearms. Arguably the most notable was Winchester’s model 1873, which swallowed a double handful of ammunition in one gulp, cycled and fired as fast as a man could run the lever, hit with passable authority, and was good medicine for bad bears and banditos.

An American Icon — The Winchester ’73

The Winchester ’73 left the challenges of earlier lever-action designs behind, proving itself to be almost entirely problem-free. Colt was quick to get an instrument in the band by chambering its Peacemaker revolvers for the same .44-40 cartridge (then the .44 WCF, or Winchester Center Fire). The round carried a .427-ish 200-plus grain slug pushed by 40 grains of black powder, and while not as authoritative as the larger cartridges of the day, still hit hard enough to do the job.
Suddenly, after a couple centuries of carrying a single-shot, front-stuffing longrifle and – if one was rich or lucky – a single-shot dueling pistol, frontiersmen and cowboys could pack a repeating rifle and matching pistol, both firing the same “bullet”. They were, in a sense, the AR-15 and Glock of the 19th century.

Guns of the West

The front sight of the Win. ’73 Sporting Rifle is a semi-fine post.  It’s dovetailed into the top flat of the octagonal barrel.

As a youth, I developed my own passion for classic Old West firearms. I learned to use a cap & ball Colt 1860 Army long before I learned to use a semiauto weapon. One of my favorite guns in my father’s small collection was a reproduction Winchester ’73 made by Uberti, used, but in beautiful condition. When I was in my mid-teens, my father gave me the rifle. I carried that gun for years of cowboying and mountain wandering, and worn wood and bluing reflects the rough miles and time in my saddle scabbard.
It’s not as accurate as it once was – the years, miles, and several thousand rounds having taken their toll, but the old rifle still shoots fast, smooth, and reliably. In fact, I’ll stick my neck out and opine that at close range the old rifle and I could hold our own in a steel-target matchup against the average citizen with an AR-15 – at least for the first dozen or so rounds.

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The author’s ’73 features a simple adjustable rear buckhorn sight.

Modern Offerings

Currently, Uberti offers fine reproduction Winchester ‘73s in seven iterations, ranging from the super-short 16.125 inch barreled Trapper up to their 24.25 inch Sporter, with available options including octagonal, round, or octagon-to-round barrels, pistol or straight grip, crescent or shotgun buttplate, blued or color casehardened buttplate, lever, and frame, and more. Three cartridge chamberings are offered, including the afore-mentioned .44-40, the .45 Colt, and .357 Mag.
I tested four currently available .44-40 factory loads through my old Uberti Winchester ’73 for accuracy, velocity, and reliability. Predictably, the rifle functioned perfectly without a single malfunction. Accuracy was less than stellar, but a younger rifle aimed by younger eyes would almost certainly shoot tighter groups. Results are posted below.

Forty-something year-old eyes and rifle aren’t a great combination for accuracy. But the author’s rifle still shoots well enough to get the job done.

Testing was done at 50 yards over a bench, with the accuracy determined by averaging three, five shot groups. Velocity was measured at 10 feet from the muzzle using a Shooting Chrony chronograph.

Ammunition Velocity (FPS) Accuracy (Inches)
Black Hills 200-gr. RNFP 1,141 2.06
Hornady 205-gr. Cowboy 995 2.57
Winchester 225-gr. Cowboy Action 902 2.94
Winchester 200-gr. Power-Point 1,069 2.01

The author found four currently available factory loads for his Winchester ’73. Three were designed for Cowboy Action shooting, one for hunting.

It’s a noble rifle with a noble history.

Lasting Impressions

The Winchester 1873 handles and operates more gracefully than most modern rifles, including modern-designed lever actions. It was designed during a time when men carried their firearms as a matter of course while doing chores, riding to town, or tending cattle. It was made to be a friendly companion. In other words, it balances and carries well in the hand, slides in and out of a saddle scabbard with ease, and is as graceful as a ballroom dancer.
Crossbar safeties were an evil yet to be invented, the half-cock notch on the ‘73 acting as a handy, serviceable safety. A dust cover slides completely over the ejection port. This helps prevent dirt and debris from clogging the action, automatically pushing out of the way when the action is next cycled. The lever can be locked down if desired. Simply turn the lever lock at the rear of the lever loop. Cartridges are thumbed in via a handy loading gate on the right face of the frame. They’re swallowed one after another with enchanting volume.
Sights on my rifle include a simple but effective adjustable rear buckhorn and a moderately fine post front, both dovetailed into the top flat of the full octagon barrel. Capacity is 13 + 1, and weight is right around 8 pounds.

Today’s Rifles

Nowadays, the currently manufactured “Sporting Rifle” made by Uberti is the twin to my lovely old rifle, is readily available through various gun shops across America, and sports an MSRP of $1,259. Street price would be a bit less.

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The Swiss K31 A bit of history on the last—and possibly best—bolt-action designed for military use BY DAVID E. PETZAL

Swiss K31, straight-pull bolt-action military rifle

The Swiss K31 straight-pull bolt-action.
Bouterolle via Wikipedia
So, as I said, I ran across a Swiss K31 straight-pull military rifle, which I had never seen before, and since I’ve seen just about every gun before, it was intriguing, so I did some research, and it became even more intriguing.
The K31 was probably the last bolt-action rifle to be issued to an army. It was designed in 1930 at the Swiss Arsenal in Bern, and the first test guns were given to soldiers in 1931.
It was a replacement for the elderly, cumbersome Schmidt-Rubin straight pull, and is sometimes referred to as the Schmidt-Rubin K31, but that is erroneous, and neither of those gentlemen had anything to do with it, both being dead at the time.
The K31 was a vast improvement over the old Schmidt-Rubin. K stands for “karabiner,” and although it looks like a carbine alongside its predecessor, its barrel is actually 26 inches long, which is 2 inches longer than the Springfield 03.
Its receiver is shorter, and stronger than that of the Schmidt-Rubin, and the rifle weighs just under 9 pounds, unloaded, which for the time was relatively light.
The barrel was free-floating, and the trigger was excellent for a military arm. The K31 was issued with a single detachable six-round magazine, and soldiers were expected to reload it from stripper clips.
The cartridge for which the K31 was chambered was designated the GP11, or 7.5×55. It was a highly advanced round that was designed to work either through rifles or machine guns.
It fired a 174-grain bullet at 2560 fps, which makes it the identical twin of the U.S. M118 7.62mm sniper round, except that the current version of the M118 appeared in 1993, and causes you to wonder if maybe we shouldn’t hire the Swiss to design our weapons.
The new rifle was an immediate hit, and came into general issue in 1933. It would keep its place until 1958, when it was replaced by a powerful semi-auto assault rifle designated the PE-57.
Being a straight pull, the K31 was much faster to operate than a conventional bolt action.
You hauled back on a barrel-shaped handle on the right side of the action, slammed it forward, and you were all ready to shoot whoever was dumb enough to invade Switzerland.
The safety was a ring at the rear of the bolt, and it functioned both as a safety and as a cocker/decocker. The action could be disassembled in seconds, and without tools.
The Swiss have always placed a premium on precise shooting, and the K31 was true to that tradition. Its effective range is 540 yards, and it was/is exceptionally accurate for an issue military rifle of that period or this.
I understand that it’s common for K31s to shoot minute-of-angle groups with iron sights and standard military ammo. I can’t think of anything else that will match it.
K31 stocks were made of either walnut or beech, and beneath their buttplates sometimes lurks a surprise for the person who comes to own one.
The Swiss had a practice of slipping ID tags there. These little pieces of paper contained the name and birth date of the soldier who had been issued the rifle, his unit, and the town in which he lived.
The K31 carries with it two great ironies: It was not only the last military bolt-action to be designed, but it was quite likely the best.
I can’t think of anything better, and probably the only rifle that could match it in World War II was the M1 Garand. Second, and even stranger, it’s quite probable that the K31 never fired a shot in anger.
The Swiss remained neutral through World War II, as even Der Adolf was not crazy enough to invade them.
Because the Swiss have a comparatively small army, only 528,000 were made, which is piddling for a military rifle. The United States produced 5.5 million M1 rifles during World War II.
Today, the sterling qualities of the K31 are finally being recognized. You can find one fairly easily.
A rifle in good condition will run around $400. Something really nice will go for twice that, and a veritable jewel can cost well over $1,000. This is fair. The K31 is built to a standard that you no longer see in military small arms, or in much of anything else for that matter.
It’s an eminently useful rifle that’s finally getting the recognition it deserves. And if you find an ID tag under the buttplate, leave it. The soldier who put it there would want it that way.

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The Colt Anaconda

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Just another reason on why I do NOT reload myself!

Colt Anaconda

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Colt Anaconda
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.44 Magnum Colt Anaconda in three barrel lengths
Type Revolver
Place of origin United States
Production history
Manufacturer Colt’s Manufacturing Company
Produced 1990—2003
Variants Kodiak
  • 47 oz. / 1.3kg (4 in bbl)
  • 53 oz. / 1.5kg (6 in bbl)
  • 59 oz. / 1.7kg (8 in bbl)
  • 9⅝ in / 24.5cm (4 in bbl)
  • 11⅝ in / 29.5cm (6 in bbl)
  • 13⅝ in / 34.6cm (8 in bbl)
Barrel length
  • 4 in bbl (102 mm)
  • 6 in bbl (153 mm)
  • 8 in bbl (203 mm)

Action Double-action
Feed system Six round cylinder
Sights Adjustable open iron sights

Anaconda rollmark

Introduced in 1990, the Colt Anaconda is a large frame double-action revolver featuring a full length under-barrel ejection-rod lug and six round cylinderdesigned and produced by the Colt’s Manufacturing CompanyChambered for the powerful .44 Magnum and .45 Colt centerfire ammunition cartridges.
The Anaconda marked the Hartford, Connecticut firm’s first foray into the popular large-boreMagnum pistol market.[1]


Built on a new and heavier ‘AA’ frame, the Anaconda was brought out to compete with .44 Magnum contemporaries such as the Smith & Wesson Model 29, the Sturm, Ruger & Co. Redhawk and Blackhawk, and the Dan Wesson Firearms Model 44.
Considering that many of these models had been marketed and sold for fully 35 years upon its introduction, the Anaconda was a very late entry into the large-bore handgun market.
 Unlike most other pistols introduced in the 1980s and 1990s, the Anaconda was never offered with a carbon steelblued finish, but was available only in stainless steel.
When originally introduced Anacondas were plagued with poor accuracy, but changes to the barrels quickly corrected the problems to the point that Colt billed its new pistol as among the most accurate .44 Magnum revolvers in production.
Anaconda revolvers were primarily marketed for sport enthusiast shooters and hunters, as they are too large for law enforcement general duty use or concealed-carry, although made-to-order limited production versions of the gun continued to be available from the Colt custom gun shop until approximately 2003.[1]


Originally chambered for the .44 Magnum cartridge, in 1993 the Anaconda began to be offered in .45 Colt cartridge as well. Its fit and finish resembled an upsized King Cobra married to a ventilated-rib barrel reminiscent of the Python’s.
Initially marketed with a satin brushed stainless finish, a highly polished mirror-like option known as “Ultimate Stainless” was cataloged for a time through the Colt Custom Shop.
Anacondas came equipped with four, six, or eight inch barrels, neoprene synthetic rubber finger-grooved combat-style grips with nickel colored ‘Rampant Colt’ medallions, large target type hammers and triggers, as well as open iron sightswith a red insert front and fully adjustable white outline rear.
Some models were factory drilled and tapped for telescopic sight mounting, while others shipped with recoil reducing Mag-na-ported barrels.
The trigger actions on these guns are rated as very high-quality, and the heavy-duty solid construction and weight tends to absorb recoil, making the Anaconda relatively easy to shoot with heavy loads.[2][3]


Introduced in 1993, the Kodiak was similar to the Anaconda in that it was constructed entirely of stainless steel, but offered the additional features of a recoil-reducing factory magna-ported barrel and unfluted cylinder.[4]
There were 2000 Kodiaks made as a special run of Anacondas, breaking away from their long history of naming revolvers after snakes.
A special run of 1000 King Cobras was made about the same time, having the same Magna-Ported barrel and unfluted cylinder and were called the Grizzly.
There was an uncataloged 5″ barrel version of the Anaconda, with reportedly less than 150 made. These 5″ versions command very high prices when they are encountered. Additionally, Colt made an extremely low number of 4″ barrel Anacondas chambered in .45 Colt. This ultra-rare variation commands a premium price when encountered as well.



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