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SPECIAL REPORT: When Florida police act like they’re working in California Travis E. Smith faces 15 years in a state prison and a $10,000 fine. by Lee Williams

Travis E. Smith, 28, was charged with unlawful possession of a short-barreled rifle. He faces up to 15 years in a state prison and a $10,000 fine. These are state charges, not federal charges. (Photo courtesy Travis E. Smith).

by Lee Williams

Travis E. Smith and a friend spent Sunday, July 5th shooting at his grandma’s rural property in Southwest Florida, about an hour north of his home in Pinellas Park.

It was a good day, he thought. The pair set up their own targets and shot Smith’s two Glocks, a 12-gauge shotgun, a SAR USA 9mm pistol, a Ruger .22 pistol, an AR-10 Smith had built himself, and what he believed was a Springfield AR pistol.

After dropping his friend off, Smith said he was nearing his home around midnight when he was stopped by a Pinellas Park police officer. Smith pulled into a restaurant’s parking lot.

The officer told Smith he stopped him because he had a “dim tag light.” Smith didn’t say anything to the officer at the time, but he strongly disagrees. His station wagon is nearly 40 years old and uses a bulb as its tag light instead of a modern LED, which are much brighter.

Smith’s buddy, who has a valid Florida medical marijuana card, had left an empty marijuana container on the back seat, which the officer saw. He told Smith the container was his “probable cause,” and that he was going to search the vehicle with or without Smith’s consent.

Smith, 28, was ordered out of the vehicle and told to take a seat on the curb.

“He began to search and I was sitting there for nearly three hours,” Smith said. “I wasn’t worried. I had nothing to hide.”

The officer called for backup. Over the next several hours, nearly a dozen more officers arrived. Most wore uniforms except for one who wore civilian clothes, a face mask and a ballcap.

They ran the serial number of every weapon through their dispatcher to make sure none were stolen. None were.

Smith’s Springfield AR pistol as it arrived from the gun dealer. (Photo courtesy Travis E. Smith).

Things changed when the officers found Smith’s AR pistol. They measured the weapon and the barrel with a tape measure. They opened it up, which Smith believes was to make sure it had not been converted to full-auto. It hadn’t.

After the officers had talked for hours, one walked over, handcuffed Smith and placed him in the back of a squad car.

“They read me Miranda and asked me a bunch of questions about the AR pistol,” Smith said. “I answered some. I didn’t know what the problem was.”

Smith had owned the AR pistol for nearly seven years. He found it on a website and had it shipped to his local gun dealer. He had mounted a red-dot sight and what he thought was an aftermarket brace.

“I was under the impression it was totally compliant,” Smith said. “The brace was actually smaller than the one it came with. I thought it was a brace, not a buttstock.”

An officer then told Smith he was under arrest for possessing an unlicensed short-barreled rifle, or SBR, as the other officers loaded up all of Smith’s remaining weapons.

“They took them all,” he said. “And all the ammo too.”

Before he was hauled away to jail, Smith said one of the officers told him: “Man, these are nice guns.”

Pinellas Park police officers searching Smith’s vehicle. (Photo courtesy Travis E. Smith).

At the county jail, Smith was stripped, searched, given a towel, a thin sleeping mat and sent to a cell.

While in jail, Smith said he heard from four other inmates who said they too were stopped for either a “dim tag light” or window tint that officers claimed was too dark.

The next day, he was represented by a public defender at his first court hearing.

Smith was charged with misdemeanor possession of marijuana for his friend’s empty container, and possession of an unlicensed SBR—a second-degree felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. He also received two traffic tickets, one for not wearing a seatbelt and the other for “no tag light.”

All of the charges are for violating Florida state law. None were federal charges.

Before the hearing, Smith had no criminal history only a traffic ticket.

“I have never been in trouble with the law,” he said. “I’m a Christian. I believe in Jesus. I wasn’t rude to the officers. I was ‘yessir,’ ‘yessir’ the whole time.”

Pinellas Park Police Chief Adam Geissenberger was not willing to be interviewed for this story.

Chief Geisenberger tried to pass multiple interview requests to his Public Information Officer, Lt. John Shea, but a lieutenant is not responsible for the overall conduct of the department’s officers, which ultimately, is the responsibility of the chief-of-police.

“I have passed this along to Chief Geissenberger, and he has no statement on the incident,” Lt. Shea said in an email.

Pinellas Park Police Chief Adam Geissenberger was not willing to be interviewed for this story. (Photo courtesy Pinellas Park Police).

Brace or stock?

Chris Brooks is a longtime gunsmith and firearm expert who has held nearly every job in the retail firearm industry.

Smith works for one of Brooks’ friends, who texted him soon after Smith’s arrest.

“They reached out to me because they thought the cop was mistaken, that this was just a brace. They believed that Smith was in compliance. I may have burst their bubble, unfortunately,” Brooks said. “I can understand why they thought it was a brace, but it has some things that make it a stock. However, it’s a very grey area.”

Brooks classifies firearms and firearm parts for a major online retailer, but even he isn’t 100% sure that Smith had an SBR and not a pistol with a legal brace.

“I am not convinced that stock is a stock. It has an angle that makes it unique, brace-like. The portion that makes contact with your shoulder isn’t any larger than other braces. I am not convinced it could function like a stock. It’s more like a pistol brace,” Brooks said. “This arrest was not fair. It’s unusual. It seems like something that an officer would resort to if his intention was to make an arrest. I have never even heard of this. This gun was not altered in any way. It just has a different piece of plastic on back that can be removed without tools. I’ve probably sold more than 30,000 braced pistols over the years and this has never even come up.”

The aftermarket stock/brace Smith added to his AR pistol. (Photo courtesy Travis E. Smith).

Brooks also took issue with the state charges.

“I wasn’t even aware of the Florida SBR statute until after all of this happened. The intent of the Florida law was likely to canonize the federal statute into state law, but they are a good three or four iterations behind federal law,” he said.

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Sarasota County (Florida) Sheriff Kurt Hoffman is also an attorney who served as general counsel for the department from 2005 until he became sheriff in 2021.

Hoffman believes that regardless of whether Smith had a legal AR pistol or an unlicensed SBR, the issue is whether his encounter with Pinellas Park police should have ended in arrest.

Sarasota County Sheriff Kurt Hoffman. (Photo courtesy Sarasota County Sheriff’s Department.)

“When you have a citizen with no criminal history, who is not using firearms in an unlawful manner and you find what could be perhaps a technical violation, and it takes you three hours to determine whether you have a crime or not, perhaps the best thing to do is to take the offensive firearm part off the gun and then send the non-criminal on his way,” Sheriff Hoffman said. “I would like to think that law enforcement, when encountering someone who is not acting in a nefarious capacity, that we should not be going to the extreme. Certainly, the other firearms there were not illegal, so I don’t know what the intent was to seize them. Sometimes we’re our own worst enemy.”

Alan M. Gottlieb founded the Second Amendment Foundation more than 50 years ago and serves as its executive vice president.

Said Gottlieb: “This young man’s life as he knows it may be over. Even if he doesn’t serve a full 15 years in prison, he will become a convicted felon and unable to legally possess firearms, which he very clearly enjoys shooting. I was extremely surprised when I learned that this happened in Florida and not California, New York or New Jersey. Law enforcement needs to understand the harm that can come when they act so overzealously. By charging this young man with a second-degree felony they have ruined his life. That is the real crime here. I certainly hope there is a judge in Florida who sees it this way.”

Travis’ brother just created a Go Fund Me account, which he will need. Here’s a link: https://tinyurl.com/3yjenrsf

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You may be armed when you’re packin’ a gun, but that doesn’t mean you’re invincible. Jason Gordon learned this lesson the hard way — from a 74-year-old man with a gardening appliance.

Jason had already robbed the elderly Oran McGlamry the day before, so he probably felt pretty tough when he came back after the old fellow in the front yard of his Albany, N.Y. home. “Old man, I’ve got you now!” he said, pulling a .38 revolver.

“No you don’t,” replied McGlamry, who instantly rushed Jason with his weed-whacker running at full throttle. Possibly envisioning what that spinning plastic line could do to various portions of his anatomy, young Jason turned and tried to run, but fell on his face.

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Patrick Gayle had no idea why anybody would want to shoot him. Then, after he was shot, he had no idea why he was still alive. Easy, Patrick, you get to live because you’re a loser.

The Harrisburg, Pa., man took one in the 10-ring, a stray bullet from a nearby gang fight. The slug hit a credit card, a cigarette lighter, and a $40 wad of losing lottery tickets in Patrick’s shirt pocket, delivering a painful thump but, incredibly, leaving him unperforated.

“You want to talk about being lucky?” asked Gayle, apparently no longer upset with his choices of numbers. “Those tickets saved me!”

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In South Carolina’s Lowcountry, a patrolling deputy was on the lookout for a suspect in the robbery of a Circle K convenience store when he spotted a guy who roughly fit the description. Hey, not enough for a hot stop, but close enough to pull up in his cruiser and casually say, “I want to talk to you about an incident that happened at the Circle K.”

“Yeah, I did it,” the self-jailing suspect admitted, hanging his head. Boy, that guy was one tough nut to crack. That deputy ought to make detective on this case!

The area’s only previous notable crime occurred last year when a mental magnum walked into First Citizens Bank in St. George and asked some suspicious questions about another bank. Minutes later, he strolled into the nearby First National Bank and tried to hold them up, demanding $500.

The teller carefully explained she didn’t have that much money and suggested he check with the loan officer, whom she pointed out. Einstein fled, but several minutes later burst into yet another bank, the First Carolina, where he leaped over the counter, waved something wrapped up in his hand, and demanded cash.

Of course, this time he didn’t name an amount. After all, he didn’t want to have to hassle with a loan officer.

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Few things expose the hypocrisy of anti-gun activists and their allies more clearly than the recurring spectacle of so-called “violence interrupters” and their own violent tendencies. The story has become repetitive but worth reiterating because the pattern keeps “pattern-ing.” In theory, the idea of “credible voices within the community” (typically, “reformed” criminals with knowledge of local criminal networks) stepping in to squelch beefs and stop violence before it erupts is unobjectionable. But, like a lot of ideas in modern “gun violence” policy, the yawning gap between theory and real life is instructive.

Law-abiding gun owners are treated by gun control activists as nothing more than nascent criminals. They have to be vetted, surveilled, registered, and treated with ongoing suspicion, to the degree they are tolerated at all. Meanwhile, these same activists treat actual criminals victimizing others in their own communities as the inevitable byproducts of an unfair system who have to be understood, sympathized with, and repeatedly given the benefit of the doubt. In the case of “violence interrupters,” this extends to providing them with public money and free reign to associate with active lawbreakers. In either case, the gun control activists will insist it’s all for the “greater good.”

Yet it is increasingly difficult to sustain that delusion when so-called community “violence interrupters,” along with other high profile anti-gun activists, repeatedly find themselves accused of serious violent crimes, as we have previously reported on, including here and here.

Last week brought yet another case of a violent interrupter, this time out of Baltimore, charged with the very crimes he was supposed to be preventing. A worker with Safe Streets, a taxpayer funded community program that uses “violence interrupters” to hopefully intervene and prevent violent conflicts, was charged with attempted first-degree murder and several firearm violations after a shooting.

Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott properly called the latest episode a disgrace but then erred in claiming the shooting was an isolated incident, “and should not be used to undermine the proven work that Safe Streets does each and every day.”

The problem is that these repeated incidents don’t just expose individual failures or isolated embarrassments but undermine the credibility of a larger movement that insists it has the solution: focus on eradicating firearms, instead of arresting and strictly punishing violent actors, and intervene in conflicts with criminals instead of police officers.

Far too often – as gun control groups lecture law-abiding gun owners about public safety, responsibility, and the “dangers” of firearm ownership – the silence is deafening when individuals they champion as community leaders on violence prevention are charged with serious violent offenses. Or worse, when their own champions fall from grace, it often becomes just another occasion to call for even more gun control. The Second Amendment community is not only entitled to question their judgment but also their motives. Proponents of these programs should be prepared to answer the growing list of examples that call their credibility into question.

Safe Streets is a program that receives millions of taxpayer money via city, state, and federal funds and has already been subject to formal investigations on misuse of the money, as well as possible gang infiltration. Credibility is earned through consistency and outcomes, not rhetoric. And nothing prevents a violent recidivist from preying upon innocent members of his own neighborhood like putting him in prison for an extended period of time.

Indeed, law-abiding armed citizens have contributed far more to supporting safe communities and preventing “gun violence” than pie-in-the-sky “interrupter” schemes. Research consistently shows hundreds of thousands to millions of defensive gun uses happen every year across America, usually without a shot being fired. So as a broader point for the state of Maryland, if public safety is truly priority, why does Maryland continue to prioritize gun control focusing on law-abiding citizens rather than focusing on violent offenders?

The community programs approach relies heavily on informal, unstructured intervention and personal influence rather than proven fundamentals of public safety. While the right mentorship can play a supporting role, it is not a substitute for policies that produce meaningful results through targeting violent criminals, repeat offenders, urban gang activity, and the small percentage of people responsible for a disproportionate share of serious violent crime.

For decades, NRA has argued that if policymakers are serious about improving safety, they must confront criminals rather than burdening law-abiding citizens. Communities deserve a better approach than programs that make a questionable, and sometimes dangerous, assumption that those closest to violence are in the best position to stop it.