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American Civil Liberties Union
American Civil Liberties Union

Fayetteville, AR –-(Ammoland.com)-   Since 1920, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has been a key defender of basic rights in America, fighting cases in the courts, and often winning, to protect the ability of people in the unpopular minority to express themselves in speech and belief, to control their own bodies, and to insist that the judiciary affords them due process.

The organization’s one consistent blind spot has been their views on gun rights.

This is not hard to understand. The emphasis on civil liberties—the protections afforded by law, instead of rights that are inherent in human beings—shapes the group’s thinking, and the case law on the Second Amendment was mixed prior to the Heller decision.
Still, the ACLU isn’t actively a part of the anti-gun lobby, and in the same way that attacks on the NRA because they don’t work on some activist’s pet obsession are misdirected, criticizing the ACLU for their views on guns is mostly a waste of effort.

That’s especially the case since on some important points of contention, the ACLU has discovered the concept of consistency.

When, for example, the Social Security Administration was contemplating a change in the rules regarding the exercise of gun rights by persons whom the agency determined to be incapable of managing their own affairs, the ACLU objected, saying that an administrative finding cannot be a substitute for due process, even when members of the organization might approve of the result.
This is a good test of anyone’s intellectual honesty. As stated above, the ACLU has spent decades defending due process, and it would have been hypocritical to sacrifice the same in pursuit of the objective of making legal gun ownership more difficult—though again, that’s not a primary goal of the organization.

Gun control advocates all too often demonstrate their willingness to discard any other right that stands in the way of their desires.

Now the American Civil Liberties Union is speaking out against the efforts of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo to silence the NRA by cutting off the latter’s access to financial services. A statement from the ACLU put it this way:

“Political advocacy organizations like the NRA (or the ACLU or Planned Parenthood) need basic business services, like insurance and banking, to operate.
The NRA says that the state, using its regulatory powers over those industries, is threatening financial companies that do business with the NRA.”

This, of course, is a declaration of the obvious, but it has to be said to people who obviously are more desirous of the rule of whim over the rule of law.
Why would the ACLU take this position? That is explained further down:

“Substitute Planned Parenthood or the Communist Party for the NRA, and the point is clear.
If Cuomo can do this to the NRA, then conservative governors could have their financial regulators threaten banks and financial institutions that do business with any other group whose political views the governor opposes.
The First Amendment bars state officials from using their regulatory power to penalize groups merely because they promote disapproved ideas.”

In other words, the American Civil Liberties Union understands, to borrow a line from Martin Niemöller, that if the government comes after one type of political advocacy and we say nothing, the government will come after us soon enough and there will be no one left to speak on our behalf.
The American Civil Liberties Union is fighting for the principle summed up by Voltaire’s biographer, Evelyn Beatrice Hall, that “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
This is in keeping with American values, and we should be pleased to welcome the ACLU to this much of the cause.


About Greg CampGreg Camp
Greg Camp has taught English composition and literature since 1998 and is the author of six books, including a western, The Willing Spirit, and Each One, Teach One, with Ranjit Singh on gun politics in America. His books can be found on Amazon. He tweets @gregcampnc.
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I also should mention that I have slipped this outfit a few buck now & then. As since they might not be perfect. But they do try to do the right thing most of the time. – Grumpy

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What not to do while selling a firearm! Especially a Phased plasma rifle in 40 watt range

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A just knock down beautiful Winchester MOD. 42 Pump 28 Inch Barrel Engraved By Master Engraver Clint Finley W-Beautiful English Walnut Made In 1950 Shiny Bore .410 GA

 This Scatter Gun is just a thing of wonder to behold in my humble opinion! the wood furniture on it is some of the best that I have ever seen.

Winchester Repeating Arms Company - MOD. 42 PUMP 28 INCH BARREL ENGRAVED BY MASTER ENGRAVER CLINT FINLEY W-BEAUTIFUL ENGLISH WALNUT MFG. IN 1950 SHINY BORE! - Picture 1
Winchester Repeating Arms Company - MOD. 42 PUMP 28 INCH BARREL ENGRAVED BY MASTER ENGRAVER CLINT FINLEY W-BEAUTIFUL ENGLISH WALNUT MFG. IN 1950 SHINY BORE! - Picture 2
Winchester Repeating Arms Company - MOD. 42 PUMP 28 INCH BARREL ENGRAVED BY MASTER ENGRAVER CLINT FINLEY W-BEAUTIFUL ENGLISH WALNUT MFG. IN 1950 SHINY BORE! - Picture 3
Winchester Repeating Arms Company - MOD. 42 PUMP 28 INCH BARREL ENGRAVED BY MASTER ENGRAVER CLINT FINLEY W-BEAUTIFUL ENGLISH WALNUT MFG. IN 1950 SHINY BORE! - Picture 4
Winchester Repeating Arms Company - MOD. 42 PUMP 28 INCH BARREL ENGRAVED BY MASTER ENGRAVER CLINT FINLEY W-BEAUTIFUL ENGLISH WALNUT MFG. IN 1950 SHINY BORE! - Picture 5
Winchester Repeating Arms Company - MOD. 42 PUMP 28 INCH BARREL ENGRAVED BY MASTER ENGRAVER CLINT FINLEY W-BEAUTIFUL ENGLISH WALNUT MFG. IN 1950 SHINY BORE! - Picture 6
Winchester Repeating Arms Company - MOD. 42 PUMP 28 INCH BARREL ENGRAVED BY MASTER ENGRAVER CLINT FINLEY W-BEAUTIFUL ENGLISH WALNUT MFG. IN 1950 SHINY BORE! - Picture 7
Winchester Repeating Arms Company - MOD. 42 PUMP 28 INCH BARREL ENGRAVED BY MASTER ENGRAVER CLINT FINLEY W-BEAUTIFUL ENGLISH WALNUT MFG. IN 1950 SHINY BORE! - Picture 8
Winchester Repeating Arms Company - MOD. 42 PUMP 28 INCH BARREL ENGRAVED BY MASTER ENGRAVER CLINT FINLEY W-BEAUTIFUL ENGLISH WALNUT MFG. IN 1950 SHINY BORE! - Picture 9
Winchester Repeating Arms Company - MOD. 42 PUMP 28 INCH BARREL ENGRAVED BY MASTER ENGRAVER CLINT FINLEY W-BEAUTIFUL ENGLISH WALNUT MFG. IN 1950 SHINY BORE! - Picture 10


This is one of the major reasons as to why I love guns so much!
What with the clean lines, the sheer brilliance of the design & the absolute perfection of the gun. Since if just one more thing were to be added to it. That it would ruin the effect that it has on one eyes.

To me at least it is almost magical and really is not a gun but a form of High Art!

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Simeon North Model 1816 U.S. Marked Flintlock Pistol, Brown/Case 8 ½” Rare Single Shot Pistol, MFD 1816-1820 Antique .56 Caliber Ball

This a really cool looking Charcoal Burner if I have ever seen one!

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Simeon North Model 1816 U.S. Marked Flintlock Pistol, Brown/Case 8 ½” - Rare Single Shot Pistol, MFD 1816-1820 Antique - Picture 3
Simeon North Model 1816 U.S. Marked Flintlock Pistol, Brown/Case 8 ½” - Rare Single Shot Pistol, MFD 1816-1820 Antique - Picture 4
Simeon North Model 1816 U.S. Marked Flintlock Pistol, Brown/Case 8 ½” - Rare Single Shot Pistol, MFD 1816-1820 Antique - Picture 5
Simeon North Model 1816 U.S. Marked Flintlock Pistol, Brown/Case 8 ½” - Rare Single Shot Pistol, MFD 1816-1820 Antique - Picture 6
Simeon North Model 1816 U.S. Marked Flintlock Pistol, Brown/Case 8 ½” - Rare Single Shot Pistol, MFD 1816-1820 Antique - Picture 7
Simeon North Model 1816 U.S. Marked Flintlock Pistol, Brown/Case 8 ½” - Rare Single Shot Pistol, MFD 1816-1820 Antique - Picture 8
Simeon North Model 1816 U.S. Marked Flintlock Pistol, Brown/Case 8 ½” - Rare Single Shot Pistol, MFD 1816-1820 Antique - Picture 9
Simeon North Model 1816 U.S. Marked Flintlock Pistol, Brown/Case 8 ½” - Rare Single Shot Pistol, MFD 1816-1820 Antique - Picture 10

 

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Lock n' Load with R. Lee Ermey – 01 Artillery

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Yes I am getting carried away again about my toy(The S&W 686)

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Another Reason Why the Smith & Wesson 686 is the Greatest Gun Ever Made BY ROBERT FARAGO


The rabbi lent me two of his Ruger SP101s for Sam. The Jewish gun guru can’t get his head ’round the fact that Her Indoors home carries a Smith & Wesson 686 on her hip, and plans on continuing to do so as and when she gets a concealed carry permit. “The gun weighs more than Sam does,” the rabbi pronounced, exaggerating only slightly. The stainless Rugers sported two-inch and three-inch barrels. Sam shot them alongside her Smith (which used to be my Smith, around the time of my last birthday). Sam couldn’t hit squat with the Rugers, and didn’t enjoy the experience. She shot nice tight groups with the four-inch Smith and smiled that crooked little smile of hers. .357? Even better. And now survivalblog.comhas the low-down on barrel length and .357 ammo that proves that Sam does, indeed, own the perfect gun. Well almost . . .

The power of the .357 is greatly affected by barrel length. The .357 seems to hit its prime at 6”. Any shorter and a lot of power is lost any longer and you are toting a gununnecessarily to [sic] big. If you look at the charts made by the gentlemen at Ballistics by the Inch you will see that the difference between a 2” barrel and a 6” barrel is upward of 700 ft/sec of velocity. If you use this info and plug it into the [Energy, Momentum, and Taylor KO (TKO) Calculatorcalculator you will see that your values skyrocket as the barrel length increases. Using the data on a Corbon 125 grain JHP a 2” barrel yields an energy of 226 ft/lbs, momentum of 16, and a TKO of 5. Now you plug in the data from the same round out of a 6” barrel and you get an energy of 816 ft/lbs, momentum of 30, and a TKO of 10.

Now that’s what I call stopping power. Although yes, shot placement. The bottom line: six is better than four but four is better than three and three is a LOT better than a snubbie. In terms of recoil control, accuracy and stopping power, bigger is better. Although yes, shot placement. And no way Sam could schlep a six-inch Smith & Wesson 686-6. She’d end up walking funny. If you know what I mean.

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Care to guess who just DROS* their new 686-2 out here in California?

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*DROS is the acronym for Dealer Record of Sale. It is the system used by the California Dept. of Justice wherein background checks are. conducted for purchasers of firearms. It is also the method by which firearm sales registration information is obtained.
For those lucky Souls who do NOT Live here! This is what you are missing out on! Grumpy
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Lord is this what a Revolver should look like or not!Image result for S&W Model 686-2 6 inch

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Now for some really Old School Guns – The Matchlock!


Someday if I ever get the Chance to. I would really like to fire one of these Old Timers off.
As it is the closest that I have gotten to one of these. is when I was allowed to fire off a 1861 Springfield.
Up in the Angeles National Park, when it was still allowed back in the late 1980’s. Sadly that activity has been banned by the Government Folks.
I guess that too many people were having too much fun! Grumpy

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Vice TV – The Gun Markets of Pakistan


Now a lot of time Vice TV on the Cable TV circuit. Is your usual the World is ending because of Climate Change etc etc. But a lot of times on the plus side. Will cover a lot o areas that the so called mainstream News won’t.
Here is one of their better efforts in my humble opinion! Grumpy