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OTTAWA — Deep into preparations to compete next month in the Netherlands, Canadian elite-level pistol shooter Kim Britton can’t help but worry for the future.

“I envision a point where to me, even though I love it, it’ll be too challenging to pursue,” she said.

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California is working hard to pass gun laws — and even harder to defend them

State lawmakers introduce new gun legislation in a tense legal climate.

Gavin Newsom speaks during a news conference.

California Democrats returned to Sacramento this week with a gun-safety agenda following a near-record year for U.S. mass shootings. But their legal obstacles loom higher than ever.

The Supreme Court this summer invalidated one of the state’s longstanding concealed carry requirements, and a federal judge in San Diego has blocked a series of the state’s restrictive gun policies. Meanwhile, Second Amendment groups will sue “anything that walks,” said Democratic Assemblymember Jesse Gabriel, who chairs the Legislature’s Gun Violence Prevention Working Group.

As the challenges mount, it’s up to lawmakers to find a way around them, said Bob Hertzberg, a former California legislator whose bill could be heading to the Supreme Court.

“We have these horrible deaths every year,” Hertzberg said. “How do we as lawmakers try to figure out creative ways that reduce this horrible tragedy?”

A group of Democratic legislators insist they are unfazed by the legal threats as they pursue laws they know other blue states are likely to emulate. They’ve already introduced at least five bills, with more on the way. Here’s what you need to know about California gun safety advocates’ hopes for 2023 — and the obstacles they may face.

This year, advocates hope to tax the gun industry and defy the Supreme Court

Sacramento veterans and newcomers were quick to begin pushing gun laws in the new legislative session, with bills that target gun violence and the firearms industry. Catherine Blakespear, a first-year state senator, submitted one on the day she was sworn in.

Blakespear’s Senate Bill 8 is an open-ended intent bill that will seek to prevent gun violence; the senator plans to fill it in with details in the coming weeks.

Other lawmakers are advocating for do-overs of past legislation. State Sen. Anthony Portantino is back with Senate Bill 2, which is meant to protect the state’s concealed-carry law following the Supreme Court’s Bruen decision in New York. His last effort to do so failed narrowly in the Assembly after some lawmakers questioned whether the bill would hold up in court. And Gabriel is again championing a tax on the sale of firearms and ammunition to fund gun violence prevention initiatives.

Gabriel also has a new bill that would allow Californians to add themselves to a firearms Do Not Sell list, and another that would prohibit those under domestic violence protection orders from owning firearms for three years after their order ends.

Even if the proposals make it out of the Legislature, their long-term fate will hinge on surviving a thorny legal landscape.

“If and when we pass this tax on the sale of guns and ammunition, I have no doubt that it will be challenged in court,” Gabriel said. “But the fact that someone’s going to file a lawsuit … that’s not a reason not to move forward.”

Phil Ting, a Democratic assemblymember from San Francisco, said he expects to see a legislative push this year to make more research on firearms and gun violence publicly available.

“The gun lobby’s pushed very hard to have no information,” Ting said. “They’d like this to be perceived as individual accidents and incidents, when we know that the more guns there are on the street, the more deaths there are.”

States must face reality of a 6-3 conservative Supreme Court majority

Lawmakers in California and elsewhere say they are eager to impose restrictions on guns after nearly 650 mass shootings across the country last year, the second-highest number on record. But the reality is that the legal landscape has never been more hostile to firearm regulations at the state level.

“California is, more than ever before, having a problem defending its gun control laws,” said Adam Winkler, a constitutional law expert at UCLA. “A lot of widely accepted, long-standing rules are now being called into question nationwide.”

In June, the Supreme Court didn’t just strike down a New York law that restricted concealed-carry permits in the state. The majority opinion in the Bruen case, backed by the 6-3 conservative majority on the high court, opened the door to challenges on a wide range of Second Amendment policies that restrict firearms. Gun rights advocates have already taken up the invitation, bringing challenges across the nation that are likely to prevail under the newly established framework set by the Supreme Court.

Just about any new legislation in California faces a likely challenge from advocates such as the Second Amendment Foundation.

“California and other states need to repeal anti-gun rights laws, not pass new ones, or we beat them in court,” said Alan Gottlieb, the organization’s executive vice president.

First up may be Senate Bill 1327, a bill modeled after a Texas law that allows private lawsuits against those who receive or help provide abortions. Newsom signed SB 1327 into law last year, with the express intent of inviting a legal challenge. As expected, California’s new law has already been overturned in federal court, and Hertzberg said he expects it to make its way to the Supreme Court.

Newsom versus Benitez — again.

California’s efforts to tighten gun restrictions have hit a wall with federal Judge Roger Benitez, an appointee of former President George W. Bush who overturned the state’s assault weapons ban in 2021. Benitez has earned a reputation for making controversial statements about gun policy, including the false claim that vaccines have killed more Americans than mass shootings.

For gun safety advocates, Benitez is a scary figure: Second Amendment groups have strategically filed lawsuits in his district, they say, because they know he will likely hand them a favorable ruling. He lurks in the minds of lawmakers, too: Gabriel said Benitez is “a great example of an extremely activist judge with views that are far outside of the mainstream.”

Several of Benitez’s rulings overturning state gun laws were under appeal before Bruen. Now, they’ve been sent back to him. “Years of litigation … and we’re right back down to square one with the same judge whose opinions were already overturned by the Ninth Circuit,” said Ari Freilich, Gifford Law Center’s State Policy Director.

When Benitez struck down SB 1327, it was déjà vu for both himself and Newsom, who have publicly antagonized each other. The governor blasted the judge after he initially overturned the assault weapons ban, calling him a “wholly-owned subsidiary of the gun lobby and the National Rifle Association.”

“We need to call this federal judge out,” Newsom said at a June 2021 news conference. “He will continue to do damage. Mark my words.”

Rethinking a century of gun policy

While lawmakers wait for the Supreme Court to clarify its interpretation of the Second Amendment, Benitez is already forcing state lawyers to defend California’s slate of restrictions. Last month, he asked lawyers to draft a 97-year history of gun restrictions in the state — beginning with the ratification of the Second Amendment and ending 20 years after the ratification of the 14th.

The request emerged from the Supreme Court’s ruling in Bruen, which stated that judges must employ an interpretation “rooted in the Second Amendment’s text, as informed by history.”

The judge will use this history to aid his analysis — and to help determine the fate of gun safety laws in California, new and old.

Bruen has forced attorneys across the country to spend valuable time doing historical research on Second Amendment law, Winkler said. He called the surge in litigation a “huge burden” for state DOJs across the country.

The California DOJ declined to answer questions regarding the agency’s workload. But in a statement to POLITICO, a department spokesperson confirmed that the Supreme Court’s decision triggered a range of lawsuits.

For state justice departments across the country, Winkler said, more lawsuits mean more work.

“They have limited resources, and they have to expend those resources defending this gun law, rather than pursuing other cases,” Winkler said. “There’s only so many people you have working in the office.”

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The Differential Theory of US Armed Forces (Snake Model) upon encountering a snake in the Area of Operations (AO)

Infantry: Snake smells them, leaves area.

Airborne: Lands on and kills the snake.

Armor: Runs over snake, laughs, and looks for more snakes.

Aviation: Has Global Positioning Satellite coordinates to snake. Can’t find snake. Returns to base for refuel, crew rest and manicure.

Ranger: Plays with snake, then eats it.

Field Artillery: Kills snake with massive Time On Target barrage with three Forward Artillery Brigades in support. Kills several hundred civilians as unavoidable collateral damage. Mission is considered a success and all participants (i.e., cooks, mechanics and clerks) are awarded Silver Stars.

Special Forces: Makes contact with snake, ignores all State Department directives and Theater Commander Rules of Engagement by building rapport with snake and winning its heart and mind. Trains it to kill other snakes. Files enormous travel settlement upon return.

Combat Engineer: Studies snake. Prepares in-depth doctrinal thesis in obscure 5 series Field Manual about how to defeat snake using countermobility assets. Complains that maneuver forces don’t understand how to properly conduct doctrinal counter-snake ops.

Navy SEAL: Expends all ammunition and calls for naval gunfire support in failed attempt to kill snake. Snake bites SEAL and retreats to safety. Hollywood makes fantasy film in which SEALS kill Muslim extremist snakes.

Navy: Fires off 50 cruise missiles from various types of ships, kills snake and makes presentation to Senate Appropriations Committee on how Naval forces are the most cost-effective means of anti-snake force projection.

Marine: Kills snake by accident while looking for souvenirs. Local civilians demand removal of all US forces from Area of Operations.

Marine Recon: Follows snake, gets lost.

Combat Controllers: Guides snake elsewhere.

Para-Rescue Jumper: Wounds snake in initial encounter, then works feverishly to save snake’s life.

Quartermaster: (NOTICE: Your anti-snake equipment is on backorder.)

C-17 Transport pilot: Receives call for anti-snake equipment, delivers two weeks after due date.

F-15 pilot: Mis-identifies snake as enemy Mil-24 Hind helicopter and engages with missiles. Crew chief paints snake kill on aircraft.

F-16 pilot: Finds snake, drops two CBU-87 cluster bombs, and misses snake target, but get direct hit on Embassy 100 KM East of snake due to weather (Too Hot also Too Cold, Was Clear but too overcast, Too dry with Rain, Unlimited ceiling with low cloud cover etc.) Claims that purchasing multi-million dollar, high-tech snake-killing device will enable it in the future to kill all snakes and achieve a revolution in military affairs.

AH-64 Apache pilot: Unable to locate snake, snakes don’t show well on infra-red. Infrared only operable in desert AO’s without power lines or SAM’s.

UH-60 Blackhawk pilot: Finds snake on fourth pass after snake builds bonfire, pops smoke, lays out VS 17 to mark Landing Zone. Rotor wash blows snake into fire.

B-52 pilot: Pulls ARCLIGHT mission on snake, kills snake and every other living thing within two miles of target.

MinuteMan Missile crew: Lays in target coordinates to snake in 20seconds, but can’t receive authorization from National Command Authority to use nuclear weapons.

Intelligence officer: Snake? What snake? Only four of 35 indicators of snake activity are currently active. We assess the potential for snake activity as LOW.

Judge Advocate General (JAG): Snake declines to bite, citing grounds of professional courtesy.

Signal: Tries to communicate with snake…fail repeated attempts. Complains that the snake did not have the correct fill or did not know how to work equipment a child could operate. Signal Officer informs the commander that he could easily communicate with the snake using just his voice.

Commander insists that he NEEDS to video-conference with the snake, with real-time streaming positional and logistical data on the snake displayed on video screens to either side. Gives Signal Corps $5 Billion to make this happen. SigO abuses the 2 smart people in the corps to make it happen, while everybody else stands around, bitches, and takes credit.

In the end, General Dynamics and several sub-contractors make a few billion dollars, the 2 smart people get out and go to work for them, and the commander gets what he asked for only in fiber-optic based simulations. The snake is forgotten.

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Emperor Selassie’s Treasure: The Guns of Royal Tiger Imports by MARK A. KEEFE, IV, EDITORIAL DIRECTOR

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Today, we know it as Ethiopia. Before that, it was the Abyssinian Empire, and it was headed by Emperor Haile Selassie I from 1930 until he was deposed by a Communist military dictatorship in 1974. The guns being brought into the United States by Royal Tiger Imports represent arms acquired by Ethiopia before he came to power, while he reigned, as well as after. They weren’t all Selassie’s, but most were carried while he ruled the East African nation.

After the Communists took over, firearms handed in by the people (including at least one Winchester 1895 in .405 Win.) and obsolete military arms all went into storage. Thankfully, it’s pretty dry there. That’s where they remained until Uli Wiegand of InterOrdnance and Royal Tiger Imports bought the lot, ranging from muzzleloaders to M1 carbines to guns furnished by Communist nations in the 1970s.

Uli Weigand pictured with some of the M1 carbines discovered in the cache.

There are early bolt-actions, as well as Fabrique Nationale Mausers with the Abyssinian crest. Guns left by the Italians, who occupied Ethiopia from 1935 to 1941, include just about every model of Carcano. Mausers bought before or given to Ethiopia after World War II are joined by lots of Lee-Enfields. Did I mention there are a lot of Lee-Enfields?

These guns, in both variety and quantity, are unlike anything we’ve seen in surplus imports for decades—with the International Military Antiques acquisition of the contents of the armory in Nepal being the closest thing in recent memory.

The quiet, rural surroundings gave no hints of the thousands of guns hidden in warehouses nearby.

This deal was more than eight years in the making, Wiegand told me. It’s been known that these guns existed, but exactly how many there were, what they were and what kind of shape they were in wasn’t generally known. As each new lot is imported by Royal Tiger, we learn more.

A Troubled Land

The guns reflect the troubled times experienced by the East African nation, and they reflect more than a century of conflict, mostly started by the Italians in Abyssinia. During the heyday of colonialism, Abyssinia managed to remain independent, not for lack of the Italians trying, though.
It began in 1887 and went through 1889, depending on what historiography you follow—as perhaps the first Italo-Abyssinian War, even though a later war goes officially by that name. We know there was a war involving Italians and Ethiopians, but when exactly it ended is a matter of speculation.

This resulted in at least one resounding defeat for the Italians and their allies, the creation of Italian Eritrea and bitter feelings that led to what is properly known as the first Italo-Abyssinian war in 1887. It was ended by the treaty of Wachale in 1889.

Italian prisoners of war at Harrar, capital of the Ethiopian province of the same same. The soldiers, made prisoners during the First Italo-Ethiopian War, are awaiting repatriation to Italy. The picture was taken in March 1897 by the second in command of a French mission to Ethiopia, during a stopover in Harrar.

The Abyssinians thought they were still independent; the Italians thought Abyssinia was now a colony of theirs. It came to a fighting another war in 1895-1896, where the Italians suffered a major defeat at the Battle of Adwa, a defeat that stung their national pride—pride that would be resurgent in the 1930s.

The defeat of the Italians at the hands of Abyssinian forces kept the Italians in Eritrea and Italian Somaliland out until 1935. That was the start of the two-year conflict called the Second Italo-Abyssinian war.

Arming Against The Invader

In 1916 or 1917, Haile Selassie became regent of the Abyssinian empire, and he set about modernizing its armed forces—something he would seriously attempt after he became Emperor of Ethiopia in 1930. Ever shop for an armored car squadron? Selassie did.

While they sat out the Great War, the Abyssinians paid close attention. In 1924, Selassie went to Europe, and one of the places he toured was Fabrique Nationale in Herstal, Belgium.
According to my friend and author Anthony Vanderlinden in FN Mauser rifles, an excellent book on the bolt-actions made by Fabrique Nationale (anything by Anthony is excellent, by the way), he notes that as early as 1922, Selassie was acquiring arms and ammunition, at first from the French.

Alongside the warehouses holding small arms, Weigand and the Royal Tiger Imports team found artillery pieces rotting in the field.

With a resumption of old-school colonialism, Selassie knew his forces needed modern armament, but he settled for obsolete French designs, such as the Chassepot and the Fusile Modele 74, better known as the Gras, in 11×59 mm R. By 1932, Abyssinia had purchased, again according to Vanderlinden, 10,000 rifles from Mauser, 100 machine guns, anti-aircraft guns and more obsolete French rifles.

An M1874 Gras rifle found in the Ethiopian cache.

But it wasn’t just to France that Abyssinia would turn for arms. A Belgian military delegation, tasked with training Abyssinian forces, recommended that FN arms be purchased, in particular FN Mauser rifles and carbines, as well as FN Model 30 light machine guns, which were switch-barrel versions of the Browning Automatic Rifle, fitted with pistol grips and chambered in 8×57 mm, which was the nation’s standard cartridge.

Both rifles and carbines were procured from FN, and they bear the Abyssinian crest—showing the Lion of Judah—roll-stamped on their receiver rings left in the white. Both full-length rifles with straight bolt handles and carbines, the latter of which had turned-down bolts and a very distinctive front barrel bands, were bought from FN.

According to Vanderlinden, some 17,500 rifles, 7,500 carbines and 600 Model 30 machine guns were shipped between 1933 in 1936. Interestingly there also appears to be a quantity of very early FN Model 1889s—they were still there last year.

Weigand pictured with some of the Mauser rifles found in the cache.

In addition to the guns from FN, Abyssinia purchased an additional 25,000 German-made Mausers during the same period. And it was just as well, too. The Italians invaded on Oct. 3, 1935.

Another Italian Invasion…And Occupation

The ‪Italians brought an army of 400,000 men, tanks, aircraft, artillery, machine guns and some of the most modern small arms in the world at the time. But the Abyssinians, whose rearmament was incomplete—with some still armed with spears—used topography to ambush and, at times, push back the Italian forces.

The Italians, looking for a way to unite their people around Benito Mussolini’s fascist state, needed a win. It came through ruthless means, which included the use of chemical weapons against the Abyssinians, who had no protection from things like mustard gas.

By 1936, it was over for the Abyssinians, and Selassie was forced to flee the country for England.

The British Turn The Tide

Selassie returned in 1941 as British forces kicked the Italians out of East Africa, with the help of the Ethiopians. ‪Now allied with the British, there was an infusion of guns chambered in .303 British, a phenomenon that would continue well into the post-war period. When the Italians left—this time for good—they left a lot of rifles.

The Italian influence among the Royal Tiger guns is well represented, beginning with Vetterlis, but also including long, original Model 1891 and 1938 Carcanos. There are even some 1891/24 Carcano carbines.

Wiegand told me that this is the largest quantity of Italian Carcanos he has seen, dating back to the first guns all through guns used in the 1930s and World War II without modification. ‪How they got there, I don’t know, but there have even been Mannlicher Model 1890 straight-pulls found in the Ethiopian warehouses.

The British, who had the nearby colony of Kenya for example, used arms to exert influence—evidence of that was in the warehouses. The Lee-Enfield family of rifles, including World War I vintage Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield (No. 1s) chambered in .303 British, of course, were there as were a surprising quantity of No. 4 Mk I Lee-Enfields manufactured during World War II—I’ve observed both Savage and BSA Shirley-made guns.

Even the United States or one of our European allies tried to create influence and favor with Ethiopians, and this is represented by M1 carbines. Perhaps of most interest to U.S. martial arms collectors, these are pretty much all original M1 carbines, delivered to the country in 1945.

From what I’ve been able to see, these guns have not been through the U.S. overhaul system, and despite being somewhat dirty, remain remarkably original—in both early and late World War II configurations.

According to the Royal Tiger Imports website, guns from Winchester, Inland Division of General Motors, Underwood, Quality Hardware, Rock-Ola, Saginaw Steering Gear Division of General Motors, National Postal Meter and IBM have all been identified.

Mausers, Mausers Everywhere

Did I mention that now is the best time in decades to be a Mauser collector? At what point the vast number of Mauser models—beyond those obtained in the 1930s—arrived in the warehouses bears additional research.

Original German 98ks are there, as are guns from the Czechs and what appear to be post-war rebuilds. Were they purchases at the end of the war from the glut of rifles or supplied by the Eastern Bloc to gain influence or prop up what became a client state?

How did so many different Mausers end up in the East African nation? Again, foreign assistance from the Communists is one explanation for the formerly German 98ks, but that doesn’t necessarily explain the German Model 1888 Commission rifles.

Selassie’s End & The Rise Of The Communists

In 1974, Selassie was deposed by a military dictatorship backed by the Soviet Union. Within a year, the Communists were in full control of Ethiopia. It is thought that in consolidating power, the Communists killed about a half million people, after first making them surrender their arms.

Some of those very arms are being imported today, because it wasn’t just military guns Weigand found in the stash. The nation was firmly in the Soviet sphere until the fall of the Berlin wall, which eventually led to the modern, multi-party Federal Democratic Republic Of Ethiopia.

Communist guns include the seldom-seen Czech VZ-52 semi-automatic rifles chambered in 7.62×45 mm—some were supplied to Castro’s Cuba as well. And there is a selection of Russian Model 91/30 Mosin-Nagants chambered in 7.62×54 mm R. There may well be more.

Treasures Abound…And More Are On The Way

From photos I’ve seen, the nondescript storage sites look fairly primitive. It’s hard to tell if some of these buildings housed rifles or perhaps livestock, but the dry, hot, arid climate of that part of the world has been kind to these rifles, for the most part. There isn’t apparent water damage or excess humidity affecting the wooden stocks.

The guns being imported are reflections of the very specific combat actions fought in East Africa, as well as the race to secure influence in the region. They date back to muzzleloaders—which we haven’t seen yet—but already being imported are French Gras rifles, in quantities that I’ve never seen before, as well Vetterlis, likely captured during the early conflicts with the Italians and their colonial troops.

Included in some of these first batches are pre-1898 guns, which are antiques and can be shipped straight from Royal Tiger to you. Other non-gun treasures have emerged as well, including some fairly rare bayonets, and there are also accessories for both the 98k and other rifles.

Some fairly uncommon guns have turned up as well, including early Lee-Metfords and Lee-Enfields, so called “Long Lees.” There was at least one Winchester Model 1895 chambered at .405 Winchester, likely surrendered after the Communist takeover made civilian possession of firearms illegal as part of their consolidation of power. There are no doubt more, and rumor has it there may even be some of Selassie’s personal guns.

Once COVID abates, we will be on a plane with the American Rifleman Television” crew to Florida to go through the guns, and see what other treasures this trove of arms holds. I’m bringing my checkbook. As I learned in the 1980s, historical military rifles don’t go down in price; the time of first importation is the best time to get yours—before they are gone.

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